To: Hal1950
Kean's showboating.
Bush should stonewall on the records now, more than ever.
And fire Kean.
2 posted on
12/17/2003 5:26:24 PM PST by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: sinkspur
"Bush should stonewall on the records now, more than ever."
Yeah and screw open government too. BTW you don't think it was preventable? If that's how you feel then why bother with the War on Terror anyway. We may as well just duct tape our windows and pray we don't get hit.
To: sinkspur
Kean, Howard Dean and John Dean all have an alliterative sound to me. There is something about people that they need to pull down those in power. This is going to be big news for some time. What to do is unclear to me, but the President should give it every attention.
To: sinkspur
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....then what is the purpose of having an "independent" investigation?
Is there something that "may be possible" that you would rather not hear about?
If so, then the type of country you would like to live in would be some form of authoritarian tyranny, not this one.
...."stonewall and fire".....
Wow.....the mighty have fallen!!
What ever happened to honoring the "simple truth?"
To: sinkspur
"why various government agencies didn't connect the dots"
Clinton didn't allow the FBI and the CIA to talk to each other. I don't think it was initiated by Clinton, but he didn't do anything to try to get them to work together.
According to Dick Morris, in 8 years, Clinton never met with his CIA chief .. not one time. Morris also said that Clinton had absolutely NO INTEREST in going after the terrorists.
I believe I read or heard that Bush had his people already poised for a "war on terror", because of all the attacks upon Americans. Some people said it was an attack plan for Iraq, but I don't know that to be true.
But .. if Kean starts pointing fingers at Bush I will be very, very upset. And .. I will presume Kean has been had by someone from the democrat side of the isle .. namely Hillary.
49 posted on
12/17/2003 5:47:38 PM PST by
CyberAnt
(America .. the LIGHT of the World)
To: sinkspur
"As you read the report, you're going to have a pretty clear idea what wasn't done and what should have been done," he said. "This was not something that had to happen." You say: "Bush should stonewall on the records now, more than ever." So you are comfortable with the fact that 9/11 COULD have been prevented, and WAS foreseen, and yet, instead of the people who dropped the ball facing any consequences, we all get saddled with anti-constitutional crap like the Patriot Acts.
72 posted on
12/17/2003 5:57:01 PM PST by
eno_
(Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
To: sinkspur
Kean's showboating..... With all the firewalls between information put in place by the "reforms" instituted by the Church committee, it should be little wonder that the national security advisor didn't know about the FBI reports. The Clinton administration should have been on alert after Ramzi Yousef's apartment was discovered in Manila. After an accident hanling explosives caused a fire in the apartment, police discovered plans for placing bomss in American airplanes flying overseas and even to hijack and crash multiple planes into buildings. Also, the foiled attempt by the terrorists fly an Air France jet into the Eiffel Tower in 1994 should have been taken as a warning of potential attacks on the US using hijacked airliners.
Also, the Clinton administration treated terrorism as criminal acts rather than acts of war. Terrorists who were caught were put on trial in civilian courts exposing jurors, prosecutors and judes to intimidation from terrorist organizations. We had to make sensitive information about sources and methods of intelligence gathering public in order to convict terrorists tried in civilian courts. Prosecutors disclosed that the CIA was listening to Osama bin Lauden's encrypted satellite telephone conversations. After that, Osama stopped using his satellite phone. It was disclosed in the first WTC bombing trial that the WTC towers had been designed to take a hit from a 707 and remain standing. The CIA and FBI were prohibited from sharing information about potential terrorists. Airoport security was prohibited from profiling male Muslim Arabs (they still are).
116 posted on
12/17/2003 6:43:09 PM PST by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: sinkspur
To find out who failed and why, the commission has navigated a political landmine, threatening a subpoena to gain access to the president's top-secret daily briefs. This country doesn't have time for this witch hunt. I agree fire Kean.
138 posted on
12/17/2003 7:10:44 PM PST by
Major_Risktaker
(My Got Fur handout above copy, cut, print & handout to them!)
To: sinkspur
And fire Kean.And at the same time fire G. Tenet...
325 posted on
12/17/2003 10:28:16 PM PST by
tubebender
(We've been married 47 years and she still doesn't put the toilet seat up for me...)
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