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To: r9etb
They're objective, and by virtue of that, they exist independently of you, or of me.

Being objective is not a natural existent like a rock or a speck of dust, it is an internally dependent conceptual matter within humans.

134 posted on 12/22/2003 9:08:35 AM PST by thinktwice (America is truly blessed ... with George W. Bush as President..)
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To: thinktwice
Being objective is not a natural existent like a rock or a speck of dust, it is an internally dependent conceptual matter within humans.

I don't think Rand would agree with you. For example, 2+2=4 even if there were no humans to know about it -- it's an objective fact. Rand contended that moral principles are along the same lines.

135 posted on 12/22/2003 9:40:59 AM PST by r9etb
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