[jocon307]

"If that is the fate of the world, then that must be the way God wants it. I can't see how anything can happen without the hand of the Almighty being involved."

God helps those who help themselves.

Remember the old joke about the man in the flood, sitting on his roof, refusing several offers of rescue by saying "God will save me.", until finally he is swept away. And he cries out "God, why didn't You save me?" and God answers him "I sent 2 boats, a jet ski and a helicopter, what more did you want me to do?"

[stuartcr]

Very true.

[Marysecretary]

There's nothing in scripture that says God helps those who help themselves. Actually, we need to get out of God's way so He can do what HE wants in our lives. We need to be so in tune with Him that we know exactly what He's saying to us.