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To: joesbucks
From my experience, if you just mention depression, friends and family run for the hills. I'm not sure I believe the ones who say, "If I'd only known." If you really looked, you did know. Just the other day I had a friend tell me that when she told her husband just how depressed she had been for years, he said, "Yeah, I know." What did he do about it? This summer when I was going through hell, I tried to tell my sister and after getting absolutely no response from her, I hung up and we did not talk for months. She never called to see how I was doing. I've learned how to hide depression because not only do I know I won't find support, but I know I will be shunned.

At a very low point, I checked out the suicide hotline on the internet and found this essay. For some reason, it helped me: http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

If you are thinking about suicide . . . read this first

If you are feeling suicidal now, please stop long enough to read this. It will only take about five minutes. I do not want to talk you out of your bad feelings. I am not a therapist or other mental health professional - only someone who knows what it is like to be in pain.

I don't know who you are, or why you are reading this page. I only know that for the moment, you're reading it, and that is good. I can assume that you are here because you are troubled and considering ending your life. If it were possible, I would prefer to be there with you at this moment, to sit with you and talk, face to face and heart to heart. But since that is not possible, we will have to make do with this.

I have known a lot of people who have wanted to kill themselves, so I have some small idea of what you might be feeling. I know that you might not be up to reading a long book, so I am going to keep this short. While we are together here for the next five minutes, I have five simple, practical things I would like to share with you. I won't argue with you about whether you should kill yourself. But I assume that if you are thinking about it, you feel pretty bad.

Well, you're still reading, and that's very good. I'd like to ask you to stay with me for the rest of this page. I hope it means that you're at least a tiny bit unsure, somewhere deep inside, about whether or not you really will end your life. Often people feel that, even in the deepest darkness of despair. Being unsure about dying is okay and normal. The fact that you are still alive at this minute means you are still a little bit unsure. It means that even while you want to die, at the same time some part of you still wants to live. So let's hang on to that, and keep going for a few more minutes.

Start by considering this statement:

"Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain."

That's all it's about. You are not a bad person, or crazy, or weak, or flawed, because you feel suicidal. It doesn't even mean that you really want to die - it only means that you have more pain than you can cope with right now. If I start piling weights on your shoulders, you will eventually collapse if I add enough weights . . . .no matter how much you want to remain standing. Willpower has nothing to do with it. Of course you would cheer yourself up, if you could.

Don't accept it if someone tells you, "that's not enough to be suicidal about." There are many kinds of pain that may lead to suicide. Whether or not the pain is bearable may differ from person to person. What might be bearable to someone else, may not be bearable to you. The point at which the pain becomes unbearable depends on what kinds of coping resources you have. Individuals vary greatly in their capacity to withstand pain.

When pain exceeds pain-coping resources, suicidal feelings are the result. Suicide is neither wrong nor right; it is not a defect of character; it is morally neutral. It is simply an imbalance of pain versus coping resources.



291 posted on 12/13/2003 11:25:31 AM PST by christie
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To: christie
""Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain."

This is ONE reason for suicide of many. It IS chosen by people for various reasons. It does not just 'happen'.

I can appeciate the essay and I'm glad it helped.

"When pain exceeds pain-coping resources, suicidal feelings are the result."

For many, it is when mental resources and reasoning once again exceed the pain at a later stage of thinking in the illness.
304 posted on 12/13/2003 11:44:03 AM PST by At _War_With_Liberals (It's more than a lib/con thing- All 3 branches of govt colluded to limit the 1st amendmenthave been)
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