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To: dubyaismypresident; ArneFufkin
It's a damn shame.

It IS a shame, but Arne's right: suicide is ultimately a cowardly, selfish act.

The suicide gives no one even the OPPORTUNITY to help. What's more, he won't give up his own self-absorption to see that he doesn't have to kill himself.

Depression is as curable as the common headache. One just has to get out of himself long enough to see it.

175 posted on 12/13/2003 9:20:54 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
It IS a shame, but Arne's right: suicide is ultimately a cowardly, selfish act.
The suicide gives no one even the OPPORTUNITY to help. What's more, he won't give up his own self-absorption to see that he doesn't have to kill himself.

Have you no shame? The man's widow is on FR.
Heck, I am pissed at him for doing it. But I'll give some compassion instead of hyper judgementalism.

As curable as a headache? What church do you deacon at? The church of Pfizer?

I'll be praying his soul. We still have that OPPORTUNITY to help him.

179 posted on 12/13/2003 9:26:09 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: sinkspur
One just has to get out of himself long enough to see it.

And therein lies the rub. Some suicidal people are so far gone, so far removed from reality that they can't see common sense any more, even when it's shoved right up under their nose. Not all, but some.

182 posted on 12/13/2003 9:31:22 AM PST by wimpycat ("I'm mean, but I make up for it by bein' real healthy.")
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To: sinkspur
It IS a shame, but Arne's right: suicide is ultimately a cowardly, selfish act. The suicide gives no one even the OPPORTUNITY to help. What's more, he won't give up his own self-absorption to see that he doesn't have to kill himself. Depression is as curable as the common headache. It IS a shame, but Arne's right: suicide is ultimately a cowardly, selfish act. The suicide gives no one even the OPPORTUNITY to help. What's more, he won't give up his own self-absorption to see that he doesn't have to kill himself. Depression is as curable as the common headache. One just has to get out of himself long enough to see it.

You are one ignorant, arrogant, despicable little turd of a Bushbot!

I wonder if you notice that NOBODY with any REAL experience with severe depression or suicide talks that hateful, stupid, tough-love crap! There's a reason for that. Think about how your last sentence contradicts the rest of your post!

Shame you weren't around to tell him what a selfish coward he was, maybe you could have turned him around by explaining that he was whining about something no more significant than a headache.

Hope that if you ever find yourself in dire emotional straits, you find someone with a little less "tough" and a little more "love" than what you offer.

316 posted on 12/13/2003 12:03:05 PM PST by Yeti
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