Regarding Freeper Obit. TrappedInLiberalHell and Depression

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[joesbucks]

The problems of depression and despair.

[CalKat]

You're kidding, right? Depression has nothing to do with what you tell your subconscious. It is caused by a chemical imbalance. If all it took to cure depression was little pep talk to your subconscious, don't you think people would cure themselves of this horrible condition?

[stands2reason]

I wonder how many of these Freepers who say "just trust in God"
would sat the same thing to a schizophrenic?

[eddie willers]

Are you sure you wanna do that?

I stopped before post 100 to make another reply when I noticed that you had made a respose to my earlier post.

I still have more than 300 to go.

I hope it doesn't crumble so badly.

Should I give up hope? :)

[Chad Fairbanks]

I wonder how many of these Freepers who say "just trust in God" would sat the same thing to a schizophrenic?

I have to agree with that. There are two Schizophrenics in my wife's family (who, oddly enough, are the only ones I really get along with) who have never been helped by religion, even with their strong catholic backgrounds. THe only things that seem to help are meds, and even then, they don't always take them. I wish I knew what the answer was for them, because they are really great people.

[Revolting cat!]

Let's be generous and say that while it loses its initial focus as it moves along, it starts getting, uhm, interesting, in a bitchy kinda way...

[Chad Fairbanks]

Should I give up hope? :)

No. Hope is the one thing we all need.

[CWOJackson]

Sorry to read about your loss and in such a tragic way.

My family and I will put you in our prayers.

[Reddy]

"Depressive thoughts are the devil trying to distract us from our God-given assignment, which is to live our lives to the best Good possible."

Just as having a cold could distract us from our God-given assignment. Depression is an illness in that same sense, and usually needs to be treated as such.

[Clara Lou]

I wonder how many of these Freepers who say "just trust in God" would sat the same thing to a schizophrenic?
I had that same thought. It's very simple: Those who have experience with clinical depression understand. Those who have never experienced it (themselves or via a loved one) cannot. Then, too, other people's problems are very easy to deal with.

[Yeti]

I post this for those who it will help

I appreciate and admire that sentiment, mama.

[RightOnline]

You make a superb point. How often is self-pity confused with "depression"?

I truly don't mean to come across as some heartless ba**ard here, but surely you see my point and understand the distinctions I am drawing.

[Petronski]

Those who have never experienced it (themselves or via a loved one) cannot.

Too often these are the ones who beat their chest and make pious declarations about weak character and 'snapping out of it.'

[Ladysmith]

The memories flood in on each of your points. I didn't understand depression and thought I only needed a couple weeks rest. Never dreamed this would be something I will deal with for the rest of my life.

Once I understood and accepted I was clinically depressed, I wanted all NOW to get better quickly. After a few months I wanted to try to go back to work. After a few weeks, others at work, my doc, and my counselor commended me for trying but said I needed more time off, that I tried way too soon. The lesson on patience was a tough one to learn.

The medicines were tricky. One for sleeping (Ambien is a God-send!), one for panic disorder and one for the depression (memory as usual fails me, it'll probably come to me in the middle of my sleep tonight) ah, xanax for the panic. heh still have some in the cabinet - Wellbutrin for the depression.

Also, once I accepted the condition as a part of me from here on out and stopped fighting it, things got alot easier and I started making the life changes necessary to cope with it. Being more stable financially means less worries, better control, and, praying it never happens, if I break down again, I won't be in such desperate straights as I was last time.

No more extreme demands on myself, happy with what I have, and have found so much enjoyment with God's great outdoors, camping, snorkeling, fishing, kayaking (my newest hobby!), biking, etc. I've come a long ways in the last seven years and consider myself a testament to God's love and healing.

Blessing to you and your wife. Off to work on the gingerbread house!

[Revolting cat!]

What to do? Modern medicine has failed us, with its emphasis on chemical imbalance diagnoses and chemical cures (read the sad story of rocker Del Shannon's death for one of the most famous medical success stories in this area), Freudianism is a joke if not one of the causes of last century's catastrophes along with Marxism and Darwinism. We still have in this country our Dale Carnegies and health food store urban myth cures. I'm getting depressed just writing, no, typing, sorry Truman Capote, this rant. And yes, I've been there, done that! What to do?

[stands2reason]

If you do decide to go back to trusting God, do NOT stop cold turkey, your brain is not functioning normally now, it is relying on the meds, wean slowly off them if you do, and I mean slowly, your brain does not make the chemicals it used to

Of course, the brain ALWAYS makes those chemicals in the right amount in the first place, I assume?

Do you say the same thing to the schizophrenic? What about the diabetic? Or is it only the brain that is perfect?

[Ladysmith]

"dead" legs

Funny you should say that, that's what I called them. yeech, was that miserable or what?!

[stands2reason]

We have what can only be described as a blessing in our country, the resources allowed to us by modern medicine, the blessing of flush toilets!

How is using modern medicine "trusting in God?"

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

How can you speak from experience if you are alive.

I speak from experience because my oldest brother, my uncle, and my Godmother all committed suicide, and it's not as simplistic as you're making it.