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"If Americans are loud, noisy, roiling, arrogant, or any other lusty descriptive, is the opposite true of Canadians?" As a Canadian who has travelled to the states I don't find this, to the majority, is true. I think we believe what we want to believe.

"Canadians claim Americans wear Canadian Maple Leaf patches in Europe as they are so rude and nobody wants to serve them, but Canadians are "loved". They also write Americans who visit Canada are stupid and ignorant"

Yes, I hear this all the time. It is very nauseating and I don't think Canadians realize how elitist and snobby they sound. We are in denial.

I really am an odd man out up here. I have always been a defender of America (well since high school) and you wouldn't believe how that makes one an ugly duckling up here. Heck, my wife is from Colorado and her parents are one of the staunchest Republicans you'd ever come across.

I'm sorry that Canadian act like that. It is a real shame. I can say we are NOT all like that, but I can't say the nice ones are in the majority.

It is one of the reasons I dislike Europe. I think we are poisoned by their attitudes. I remember being in Ireland and was called a "fucking American" because the Irish lady was rude to me. I didn't correct her as to my nationality but proceeded to explain how rude she was.

Well I am certainly "odd man out" on the Canadian forum I have been reading. I have never read such cruel things on a forum and the administrators apparently think it is fine to allow it. They wouldn't last a minute on this one.

A few years ago on this forum I read someone complaining about a forum in B.C. and I visited it and was astounded.
They are even worse now, but at the time, the Americans on this forum thought it unimportant.

I wonder if things will ever mend.

I am sorry you were treated so rudely by the Irish woman.
But then she was coming from an ignorant perspective, not inquiring as to your country before making a judgment.

It is odd being stuck between two "homes" isn't it? But I remain positive and try not to react too badly. It is difficult to keep the disappointment out though. Someone has stolen Canada.