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To: Canadian Outrage
I see you pointing a large percentage of the problems within Canada to Ottawa, and you advocate separation by the western provinces, but from what I have read on the Telus forum, they are primarily liberal people living in the urban areas of B.C. and they could be the new socialist Canada, at least that is my interpretation.

Wasn't there a new law just passed (or perhaps just introduced) that all Government positions opening up would be bi-lingual only. No more English only applicants accepted? Is this a rumor or another internet fable? Is it real? Would this mean also that a candidate for political office MUST also be bilingual? That mandate in itself would definitely place affirmation on the French speaking Canada as preferential work force in well paying jobs.

Those from Alberta are far more grounded in what I believe Canadians stand for, in that their expression of their position within the global community has no insecurities, and they are fully aware how important Canada is in geopolitical affairs.

Now if the socialist sissies could ever find out ...

It really is a sad state of affairs to see a great country wallow in comparisons with the U.S., which have no rational bearing on their own country and its positives.

The disgusting goal in the socialists' heart is the downfall of the U.S. Believe it, I have read it. They speak in frightening ways, and I am thrown back to old black and white movies on pre WWII days in Europe (as I have no other real comparisons except word of mouth from elder family members).

One member actually declared war on the U.S. for its role in Iraq. They speak of it in the worst of terms. Are they merely off-center, too young to know any better, or trolls?

Separation by "diverse mother countries" in Canada has done them no good at all. Traditional cultures and belief systems can be maintained, but being a Canadian comes first. Either you are "of a country and would die for that country" or you are a non-status member, drowning in feeble rhetoric trying to be heard by the "herd".

I am always amazed as an alien myself, I was totally prepared to follow all the laws of the U.S., desiring only to be a productive contributor to my community and society. Whereas some of the immigrants moving into Canada immediately set up shop to change their laws, or introduce "new" laws such as the Sharia arbitration, which is one step closer to the end of the plank.
134 posted on 12/13/2003 6:09:39 AM PST by MAGEE
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To: kanawa
"They are giving it [Canada] away".

While I realize the population in comparison with the needs of the country is way down, immigration will eventually solve that problem, but it takes a generation to assimilate (or longer depending upon the people), and to introduce immigration at an overwhelming rate is much the same as our need for life-saving water.

Water as used in controlled ways is necessary for our life-sustenance, and beneficial in good agricultural and natural resource maintenance.

Water in uncontrolled ways becomes a flood destroying everything in its path.

Because of the false "laws of PC" which Canadians take so seriously, they have literally handcuffed themselves into being unable to speak out for a more rational approach to immigration. Mention immigration containment and control with some commitments by the potential immigrant of compliance with the laws of the land first, the immediate desire to learn a rudimentary form of one of the languages, and either enough money to sustain for a lengthy period of time, or guaranteed work to support all the family. Many arrive with their hands out and nothing in their pockets.

This is refugee-ism, and while I laud the practice, it never should be at the expense of those in Canada who are expected to contribute more to these people, than they are allowed to keep for their own.

The U.S. done poorly as well, but here it is merely pandering to the vote with promises of golden sidewalks and a wealthy life.

The total concept of immigration control is something the two large countries must finally bite the bullet and enact some rational measures to guarantee the impact to the nations are positive and contributing, rather than negative and taking away.
135 posted on 12/13/2003 6:23:25 AM PST by MAGEE
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To: MAGEE
I don't know of any bi-lingual requirement in B.C. B.C.has some liberal areas for sure ie: east Vancouver. The interior of B.C. where I am is STRICTLY Canadian Alliance. It's a very conservative area. We have NEVER sent a liberal to Ottawa from this riding in the 34 years I have been here. Just to explain the difference in B.C. and Alberta. B.C. was always pretty much a mirror image of Alberta BUT because of the milder weather in B.C., we attract all the Easterners to retire here. That imo is the reason for some drastic differences in the different areas of B.C. Also, many people from B.C. have moved to Alberta including my husbands entire family. B.C. was absolutely the greatest when we had 30 years of Social Credit. That was a strictly free enterprise conservative Party. The media of course went after the leader a created a non-Scandal which ended up causing the resignation of a great leader and the follow up leader was a woman that split the Party. B.C. Politics are hard to understand. We have what's called a Liberal Party in power right now but it is comprised of a coalition of Social Credit, Conservatives and a few Liberals. *groan* In fact, although I knew all that, in the last election, for the first time in my life, I could not even hold my nose and vote for the *L* word. There are some really good people in the B.C. Government right now but I can't swallow the label. As to the bi-lingual thing, I have NOT heard of such a law passed. And you don't need to convince me that SOCIALISM is a FAILED system. My husband is a sole Practitioner Lawyer. I am his paralegal and we do strictly commercial and business law. The absolute best years we had were under the Social Credit Government. Right now, after 10 years of NDP which is like the ultra left of the US Democrats, managed to bring B.C. from one of the most profitable Provinces to near the bottom. Many changes are still needed my friend and I don't think you and I are in any disagreement. That's why I say, the West should separate and be led by Ralph Klein, the Premier of Alberta. He's the most in line with our thinking also. We have toyed many times with the idea of moving to Alberta but we are mid-50's and my husband would need to qualify to practice in Alberta which probably isn't a big deal. But I LOVE B.C. It's very beautiful, we live in the Okanagan Valley which is a tourist area with many vineyards and cottage wineries etc. I think we will try to bloom where were planted. But I don't take offense when the "wrong headed" things are brought up. I'm aware of them and don't like them either. As far as French, goes, they can stick it. I'd rather learn Spanish.
138 posted on 12/13/2003 11:23:24 AM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South!!)
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