[Nick Danger]

Forward the evidence to the FBI and shun this f'ing traitor and his associates as of yesterday.

Bingo! That's what keeps me suspicious about Gaffney's charges. This is all happening right under the nose of the Secret Service, the FBI, and the entire National Security establishment. Grover Norquist is in and out of the White House all the time. He's not some guy they have to go looking for. To hear Gaffney tell it, Norquist should be in Guantanamo, but no one who actually has a job worrying about this is acting like that's true. Toss in the fact that these two guys hate each other's guts, and you have to at least consider the possibility that this is a spear-throwing contest and nothing more.

Here's Frank Gaffney telling us that he's smarter than the Bush White House about who ought to be going in there. Frank Gaffney is well connected. He can get ahold of people to make his concerns known. Yet here he is throwing these spears on the radio and in magazines. It cannot be true that his concerns have not been heard in the right places. They've been heard; they are being ignored. The people who actually run the National Security show in the United States have heard Frank Gaffney up one side and down the other. But they are not reacting the way he thinks they should, and he's pissed about that, and so he's running around acting like he has to save the country all by himself.

I'm not so quick to believe that the Bush White House is stupid, or incompetent, or oblivious to the dangers of Wahhabi Islam, or naive about why people curry favor with the White House.

Frank Gaffney has a bunch of scary names to throw around, but what he doesn't have is a reason why no one who actually has the job of worrying about this is paying any attention to him. It's not like Arab terrorism is a low priority for the Bush White House. There is something here that doesn't meet the eye. Bush Administration naivete about Arab terrorism is not it.

[witnesstothefall]

Bingo my butt. Your penchant for hyperbole and conspiracy is distorting the issue. Gaffney doesn't recommend Norquist be treated as a criminal. He's just raising an alarm about political subversion, and backing it up with facts not fantasy like you.

The only crime Norquist can even be suspected of at this point is acting an an unregistered foreign agent. But that's a legal matter, which is not Gaffney's subject. Gaffney's intent is to reveal the agent of enemy influence regardless of whether he's a criminal. The Beltway is crawling with traitors and as you know, close to none ever get busted for it.

You may have no doubt the LEO's are aware of Norquist and more likely than not, find him a useful scrap of flypaper.

It doesn't require 10,000 of my words to simply point out that Gaffney's piece is CHOCK FULL of verifiable facts which have not been refuted. I'll take that over any conspiracy theory navel-gazers can hatch to make this go away.

Finally, I find it telling that you pooh-pooh away the gravity of Norquist's terrorist associations as a bunch of "scary names". They are scary people, not just names. They and their associates would like to destroy us all. Pooh pooh that.

[Sabertooth]

Bingo! That's what keeps me suspicious about Gaffney's charges. This is all happening right under the nose of the Secret Service, the FBI, and the entire National Security establishment.

Have you had much face time with the Secret Service?

What's your experience?

Frank Gaffney has a bunch of scary names to throw around, but what he doesn't have is a reason why no one who actually has the job of worrying about this is paying any attention to him.

One of those names is Khaled Saffuri, co-founder with Norquist of the Islamic Institute.

Saffuri is also the former deputy of Abdurahman Alamoudi at the American Muslim Council. Alamoudi is currently charged with numerous terror-related activities.

Saffuri has also contributed to the Holy Land Foundation, a now banned terror org. The HLF is a sponsor of the families of Palestinian Homicide Bombers.

And what are we to make of the efforts of Khaled Saffuri to intervene on the behalf of the Safa Trust in a meeting with Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill last year, after warrants were served on Safa investigating their financial links with terror orgs (link)? Isn't this troubling, given that Norquist has acknowledged that the Islamic Institute has received donations from the Safa Trust (link)?