[justshutupandtakeit]

Here is the dictionary definition: A social system in which the producers (the proletariat) possess both political power and the means of producing and distributing goods. It is NOT welfarism which is the appropriate term to describe the US. Private ownership of the means of production is impossible under socialism see Marx, Karl.

Correct terminology is crucial in constructing valid arguments.

Calling your political opponent "socialist" is almost meaningless.

[spunkets]

"Correct terminology is crucial in constructing valid arguments. "

socialism \so-she-li-zem\ noun (1837)
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

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"Private ownership of the means of production is impossible under socialism see Marx, Karl."

When the govm't controls everything, no one owns anything.