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To: justshutupandtakeit
"This ruling is a product of the Constitution working AS the Founders envisioned."

No it is not.

"At the same time, the candid citizen must confess that if the policy of the Government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties in personal actions the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their Government into the hands of that eminent tribunal." - Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address.

So, that's what the founding fathers envisioned for the United States? I don't believe that. I hardly think they'd establish a government with the intentions of it becoming not much different than the "tribunal rule" they'd just declared independence from.

1,867 posted on 12/12/2003 12:36:46 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
Of course it is what the Founders intended. When the Court makes a ruling which runs counter to what the People want then the Constitution can be changed to be consistent with what is desired. The meaning of the Law is NOT a popularity contest and was explicitly designed to be determined by the Court not the People.

Even if 99% of the people believe a law is constitutional while the Court says it isn't, it isn't. But that does not change the reality that the People have the power to change the Constitution. This is NOT a democracy and was explicitly designed NOT to be.

This government is NOTHING like the government of GB at the time of the Revolution to claim it is indicates a lack of awareness of what that government was or is just sheer silliness. We could not change THAT government or its laws we certainly CAN change THIS one.
1,874 posted on 12/12/2003 1:01:28 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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