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To: Mo1
You are assuming that the veto would not have been over ruled and passed into law

Yes I am, and it was a very safe bet.

CFR didn't get 60% in either chamber. You think even more Republicans would have voted for it to override Bush's first veto?

Not a chance.

On the other hand, sending CFR to the Supremes with Bush's signature was a bad move. The SCOTUS routinely upholds campaign finance restrictions.

The strategery was to take the Democrat' (non) issue away. Now CFR has been given new life and legitimacy by the President's signature and today's ruling. This won't be the last such bill we ever see.

This is a debacle, and not just politically. The Constitution has been injured, and is going to be targeted for more of the same.

Perhaps our party will give the strategery a rest and actually make a stand on a principle or two.


1,179 posted on 12/10/2003 12:03:36 PM PST by Sabertooth (Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
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To: Sabertooth
BTW, I smell the grubby paws of Karl Rove all over this "strategery."
1,189 posted on 12/10/2003 12:07:20 PM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: Sabertooth
Perhaps our party will give the strategery a rest and actually make a stand on a principle or two.

They're called the stoopid party for a reason.

1,196 posted on 12/10/2003 12:08:41 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Sabertooth
Like you, I also felt the decision not to veto this piece of dung was a mistake, BOTH as a matter of political strategy AND as a constitutional issue.

This steaming pile is clearly unconstitutional. Bush knew, or should have known that.

Many feel that he decided not to poke a stick in McCain's eye by vetoing it, and instead left it to the Supremes.

But the cold, hard fact of the matter is that NO ONE outside of the Beltway, NY Media Corporate Offices and McCain's Arizona office gave a rat's ass about this issue or this stoopid bill.

Sure, Bush would have weathered a phony political "storm" concocted by the liberal media, who all recognize a nice boost for their opinions, but that would have been over in two weeks.

McCain was a paper tiger then, and Rove should have known it.

Now, we all have to figure a way out of this mess. I'm not abandoning Bush. All Presidents get a mulligan or two. But this is a big time slice into the woods from a guy who's been playing out of the rough a little too often for my tastes, at least as regards domestic policy issues.
1,247 posted on 12/10/2003 12:28:23 PM PST by borkrules
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