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To: John W

A SLED attack vehicle moves into position beside the house with the gunman which is in the background, on the left. . SWAT officers can be seen beside another house to the right which was not involved in the shooting. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

One of two robots controlled by SLED rests beside a sheriff's car near the SWAT command. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

AT SWAT command law enforcement officers gather Monday afternoon. The van to the left is where officers are controlling the SLED robot which was on the front porch of the shooter's home. according to Sid Gaulden , PIO for public safety.

A sniper can be seen on the ground to the left, where Highway 72 is being widened across from the house where the shooting occured. Monday. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

Fire bombs go off as SWAT members storm the house on Highway 72 in Abbeville. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.
12 posted on 12/09/2003 3:43:34 AM PST by visualops (The costs of fighting the War on Terror are significant -the costs of not fighting are unimaginable.)
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To: visualops
These photos from a photojournalist's perpective


A SLED attack vehicle moves into position beside the house with the gunman which is in the background, on the left. . SWAT officers can be seen beside another house to the right which was not involved in the shooting. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

This photo is taken from at least 1/2 mile away with an extreme telephoto lens of 400mm or greater.
1.The gunman's house is at the left. We cannot see his front yard.
2.The exteme lens distorts the apparent distances, so there is no way to accuately judge how close the house on the right is to the road. The two swat members are some distance from the road judging from the apparent height of the dirt mound which is actually only two or three feet high as evidenced by the squad on the left.(The dirt appears to get higher as it gets closer to the photographer on the right.)
3. There are 5 distinct visual planes. The out off focus foliage which is close to the photographer, the road with the street sign. The squad. The near house and APC. The Bixby house.
One of two robots controlled by SLED rests beside a sheriff's car near the SWAT command. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

This is taken some distance away. This was taken with a shorter lens, 200mm judging from the apparent distance between the squads.


AT SWAT command law enforcement officers gather Monday afternoon. The van to the left is where officers are controlling the SLED robot which was on the front porch of the shooter's home. according to Sid Gaulden , PIO for public safety.

This is also some safe distance away from the Bixby house. The building to the right is apparently a church or business, judging by the design of the windows and the sign visible in the background. The photographer was not very far away from the officers, which also indicates it was a safe distance from the Bixby house.


A sniper can be seen on the ground to the left, where Highway 72 is being widened across from the house where the shooting occured. Monday. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

This gives a good example of the distortion of a very long telephoto lens. There are no landmarks to show how close the Bixby house is from the road.



Fire bombs go off as SWAT members storm the house on Highway 72 in Abbeville. STAFF photo by Owen Riley Jr.

Again, it is very hard to tell how close the Bixby house is to the road, but there is room for a squad to park between the road and the front of the house.

134 posted on 12/10/2003 3:43:38 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: visualops
At least the cops used the same fire bombs used at Mt. Carmel near Waco 19 April 1993.

When people get cornered, they lash out. The poor cop was doing his his job and was killed by people screwed by the authorities.

Clever shooting to take out the toys.

FYI: More and more real estate is condemned for use by more profitable or higher sales tax income enterprises for the state, at, below, or above market value estimates. However, true market value is established by a cooperative buyer and seller.

Some government employees involved in the condemnation negotiations then take jobs with the businesses directly benefitting from the condemnations. - This corruption is an excellent example of fascism in America.

We do not know what happened, but in today's agenda reporting, IMO, a copy of our Declaration of Independnence and Bill of Rights is anti-government because it is pro-ratified Constitution.
140 posted on 12/10/2003 7:28:16 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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