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Dispute Over Land Prompts 13-Hour Standoff Between a Family and Deputies; Two Officers Killed
AP via TBO ^ | December 9,2003 | Jeffrey Collins

Posted on 12/09/2003 2:56:08 AM PST by John W

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To: Travis McGee
"anti-American literature"

*That* is exactly what the JBT's would call your book.
21 posted on 12/09/2003 5:13:04 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Noumenon; Avoiding_Sulla; AAABEST; countrydummy; newriverSister
I'm glad i am not the only one that has picked up on that. Notice how in the one news article the literature is called "anti-American" and in the other "anti-Government."

IOW the Government is America.

22 posted on 12/09/2003 5:14:17 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Rather bold statement considering we don't really know yet what happened.

How does it feel being a Gubbermint JBT shill?

23 posted on 12/09/2003 5:15:22 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: John W

Those statist curs! Don't they know that the Constimatushion clearly protects the right to commit cold-blooded murder?! Free Mumia Abu-Bixby now!

24 posted on 12/09/2003 5:15:42 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Those statist curs! Don't they know that the Constimatushion clearly protects the right to commit cold-blooded murder?! Free Mumia Abu-Bixby now!"

You're an idiot.

25 posted on 12/09/2003 5:16:40 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: sauropod
This story does not ring true to me. Comments?

It probably won't ever "ring true". It's very hard to get to the truth with incidents like this because everyone has a conflicting story to tell or an axe to grind.

26 posted on 12/09/2003 5:22:14 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST

There are no Grand Juries impaneled in South Carolina? What exactly doesn't ring true, that a family of kooks went over the deep end and committed murder over the widening of a road?

27 posted on 12/09/2003 5:28:59 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: John W
Certainly not enough information in the article. When an article goes vague like this everything written should be taken with a grain of distrust.

From the pictures it looks like that highway project was going to within five foot of their front door. As also can be seen there was no reason to build a highway five feet from their front door when the photo's clearly show the opposite side of the highway has no homes for, what? A quarter mile? Looks like they had pleanty of room to build their highway without ruining the property on the only inhabited side of the street. I'd sure like to know what their anti-American literature was.

28 posted on 12/09/2003 5:39:55 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: sauropod
up kind of late.....have not been asleep yet! lol
29 posted on 12/09/2003 5:40:37 AM PST by countrydummy
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To: MissAmericanPie
Speaking of not enough information, why would you be pronouncing engineering edicts based upon a photo?
30 posted on 12/09/2003 5:42:43 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: John W
The Bixby's may not be playing with a "full deck."
31 posted on 12/09/2003 5:46:42 AM PST by verity
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To: Cultural Jihad
It doesn't take a degreed engineer (I have two) to determine how close the highway was coming to the house.

One of the photos shows what looks like a significant amount of land alteration on the opposite side of the highway.

We do not have the full story here.

32 posted on 12/09/2003 5:49:07 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: Cultural Jihad
I was just commenting on how hard it is to determine what happens in situations such as this, grand jury or not. No need to bust a vessel.

Hey...you're screeching at me again! I thought you were angry with me and didn't care to correspond any further.
33 posted on 12/09/2003 5:53:03 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: Cultural Jihad
Two photo's, one showing the construction almost to the guys front door, the other showing the tons of vacant room on the opposite side of the street.

I'm guessing the home owner was pretty upset about the situation. He's probably not an engineer either.
34 posted on 12/09/2003 5:56:07 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: sauropod
The Bixby's do not live in a community ruled by some foreign occupying colonial power, are not estranged from any institution of self-governance, are not disempowered and disenfranchised with no voice or legal recourse for the redress of grievances.

Perhaps Mao and some fringed nutcases like to preach that political power comes from the barrel of a gun, but self-governable Americans do not.

35 posted on 12/09/2003 5:56:22 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad; AAABEST
Self-governable Americans should not have to contend with capricious eminent domain acts, which looks to me like what is going on here.

There is an awful lot of Gubbermint abuse of private property rights occurring right now in our country - if you care to look. Try fighting and winning a eminent domain case, just try.

36 posted on 12/09/2003 5:59:20 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: MissAmericanPie

And this somehow justifies cold-blooded murder?

37 posted on 12/09/2003 6:00:06 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"And this somehow justifies cold-blooded murder?"

Nobody on this thread said it did.

38 posted on 12/09/2003 6:02:00 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: sauropod
No one told Mr. Bixby that he had to live in human society. He was free to purchase an island somewhere and be safe from the capricious demands of his neighbors.
39 posted on 12/09/2003 6:02:11 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"No one told Mr. Bixby that he had to live in human society. He was free to purchase an island somewhere and be safe from the capricious demands of his neighbors."

Which was there first, his house or the highway expansion?

40 posted on 12/09/2003 6:04:59 AM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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