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To: HardStarboard
>>>It's only my contention that I haven't seen evidence that Norquist knowingly was trying to help terrorists gain access to the WH. <<<

"Then you didn't read the article. Gaffney makes a huge damning case and Norquist has reacted defensively - not with facts refuting the charges. "

First, let's call them radical Islamists, because "only a few" have been, to date, brought up on terrorism charges. As time closes quickly, and more in the NvA web of GreenQuest are charged with terror support, we can revisit Grover's 'accidental odds' -- cold be actuarially challenging!

Anyway re "No we don't have anyone corroborating Gaffney's charges - but Norquists defensive behavior comes damn close to proving Gaffney's case."

Yes, we do, Plenty, starting with the National Journal quoting Grover an dexplaing how he was resosible for getting the ball rolling and the Austin meeting/photgraph with the candidate (see Gaffney's article); to The New Republic quoting uber Arab American spokeman Zogby about Grover's vital role at the WH for Muslims(see also Gaffney'
s article), to the AMC and NCPPF awards, to the NR and WSJ articles, and the rest of Gaffney's footnotes.

And there's the White House waiver list for Muslim Americans to be used for White House outreach (faxed between the WH and Norquist's fax -- apparently put together by Norquist and Saffuri -- whose names appear as #1 and 2, along a few dozen others. One of these is Yaqub Mirza the chief financial officer for the Operation Grrenquest entities above referenced as cited by the US Govt. to be the subject of the largest terror finance investigation in the world. Mirza also signs at least $20,000 of checks to Grover and Saffuri. He was also an investor, along with Desingated Terrorist Yassin Qadi, in the raided and lcosed Boston software firm PTECH. And the list of cabinet meetings, and ...... And that Grover's firm represented Alamoudi, etc.
508 posted on 12/14/2003 9:45:46 PM PST by Trollstomper
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To: Trollstomper
>>>First, let's call them radical Islamists, because "only a few" have been, to date, brought up on terrorism charges.<<<

Thanks for your interesting reply. Your a lot deeper into this situation than I - I need to do some research.

Technically your quote above is accurate. However, I see little differentiation between those that collect money to finance terrorists, those that actually wire the bombs, and those that pull the triggers.

As I remember this professor in Florida, Sami was his last name, has been accused (or convicted?) of raising money for the Palestinian terrorists. Wasn't he in one of the Arab groups to visit the WH?

Keep me posted on developments in this flap. I think Norquist is a huge potential danger to Bush - if not physically, then politically.

585 posted on 12/15/2003 10:41:26 AM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: Trollstomper; Betty Jo; aristeides
One of these is Yaqub Mirza the chief financial officer for the Operation Grrenquest entities above referenced as cited by the US Govt. to be the subject of the largest terror finance investigation in the world. Mirza also signs at least $20,000 of checks to Grover and Saffuri. He was also an investor, along with Desingated Terrorist Yassin Qadi, in the raided and lcosed Boston software firm PTECH.

Tidbit Connections PING!!!!
592 posted on 12/15/2003 12:09:21 PM PST by swarthyguy
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