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To: Trollstomper
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..Guess again spud...

Pretty mild reply considering how roughly I spoke to you; you're making me feel bad here. Well, not too bad :)

Let's imagine Columbo, abashed by his brilliant, sophisticated antagonist, head down, shuffling to the door, but turning just before passing through it, and saying "You know Professor Troulstaumpurgh, I'm sure you're right about all this, but there's just one thing that bothers me..." ..and it is this: it is alleged that there has been wrongdoing on the part of this Nyquist person, but the doings described in the allegations are not wrong!

It is not his franchise to keep persons of questionable antecedents out of the White House. Period. If such people have been getting in, those responsible should have to stand and deliver. Those responsible for screening the WH visitor lists and keeping shady characters out is a group that does not include Nyquist.

So what's going on here..?

469 posted on 12/14/2003 7:18:22 PM PST by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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To: MrNatural
It is not his franchise to keep persons of questionable antecedents out of the White House. Period. If such people have been getting in, those responsible should have to stand and deliver. Those responsible for screening the WH visitor lists and keeping shady characters out is a group that does not include Nyquist.


Acutally it does include Norquist and was handled by his placee, Suhail Kahn from his Board, and Nina Shokrai Rees, also from his board. As I have explained dozens of posts agao, these thigns are contracted out tot trusted people and thats it. The rest is just an NCIC check for outstanding warrants and threats against the President. I have epxlain theis process , which I have in the past worked, above many times. Gaffney is entrusted to bring people to the WH or DOD or a Senator, it is on the basis of trust and the expectation that as a professional, a former Senate Armed Services cmte staffer, and a former Assistant Secretary of Defense, he knows the people, their pasts, their positions on issues, and their associates. He is also expected to honestly represent how he chose them and to make sure the Prinicipal (SECDEF, DCI, SENATOR) is not later found in an awkward position.

This expressly includes disclosing if you are being paid by a foreign government and its US fronts, or if you are or have has a registered lobbying relationship to the person or group you are bringing. All the latter applied and apply to Grover and he did not disclose them, and even since has repeatedly been caught fuzzing or outright lying about same.

Finally, re "not his franchise to keep persons of questionable antecedents out of the White House." That is a strawman I have now removed, so what remains is the actual fact and charge: as per above, it was his franchise to bring persons into the White House and exclusively brought ones of, a you delecately put it " questionable antecedents."

As I've said before, only adults are allowed; viz, you cannot assert on the one hand that he is an adult action hero, etc., and then say that if he waddles in the toilet water that is the responsbiity of his parents and the babysitter -- but it can't be held against little Grover because he's such a charming mercurial and precocious little munchkin. Well you can if you want.....
475 posted on 12/14/2003 7:35:01 PM PST by Trollstomper
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