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To: marshmallow
Why don't you cut out the evenhanded crap and actually go learn what this conflict is really about. Israael is the historical homeland for the Jews, period. Palestine was never a self governing entity. If ever a people needed a homeland outside of Europe, it's the Jews. A fight over "land" you say? Land that Jews were denied access to in World War II when thay faced Hitler's ovens.

I don't believe for one minute that even the Arabs, for whom I have nothing but contempt, are fighting over "material". Their intense spiritual drive stems from an inferiority complex in the face of their decadent civilization.

This is NOT about materialism. Got it?
35 posted on 12/08/2003 7:08:32 AM PST by djr
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To: djr
Why don't you cut out the evenhanded crap and actually go learn what this conflict is really about.

Why don't you learn some manners?

Israael is the historical homeland for the Jews, period.

You mean the state of Israel? Or the land which is now encompassed by the state of Israel? The latter is true. The former is not. It is also the historical homeland for many Arabs.

Palestine was never a self governing entity.

No it wasn't. It was governed by the British latterly. Irrespective of who governed it, it was home to a large number of Arabs. As it still is today. And if those Arabs who now live in refugee camps still lived there, they would constitute a majority.

If ever a people needed a homeland outside of Europe, it's the Jews. A fight over "land" you say? Land that Jews were denied access to in World War II when thay faced Hitler's ovens.

"Denied access to." What do you mean? Denied the right to live there? Or denied their own state? Are you saying the Holocaust would never have happened had Israel been in existence?

I don't believe for one minute that even the Arabs, for whom I have nothing but contempt, are fighting over "material". Their intense spiritual drive stems from an inferiority complex in the face of their decadent civilization.

They're fighting over L-A-N-D. Using tactics which are inhuman and barbaric. There is a also a wider conflict underway between Islamic fundamentalism and Christianity which again pretends to be spiritual but which is also about LAND. They want westerners and non-Muslims out of Islamic territory i.e. the Middle East. Islamic LAND is not for infidels, in their opinion.

This materialism can also be seen in the Jewish attitude toward the Messiah. Someone who would restore the kingdom to Israel. But Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world." As you may know, this did not sit well with the Jews.

This is NOT about materialism. Got it?

I respectfully disagree.

36 posted on 12/08/2003 8:08:46 AM PST by marshmallow
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39 posted on 12/08/2003 9:08:07 AM PST by johnb838 (Mr Bush, build *us* a wall...)
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