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Limbaugh med records seized

Posted on 12/04/2003 9:51:01 AM PST by longtermmemmory

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To: lawdude
On the other hand, should they leak the files, he will own southern Florida.

Agreed. I'm not a lawyer, but I work in the medical industry and am well-versed on HIPAA regulations. Since April 14, 2003, the controls have tightened to maintain the privacy and integrity of patient information. This will be interesting to watch.

161 posted on 12/04/2003 12:37:32 PM PST by dansangel (*PROUD to be a knuckle-dragging, toothless, inbred, right-wing, Southern, gun-toting Neanderthal *)
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To: SirAllen
"There's no question that he broke the law. But look at it in context"

I WAS looking at it, in context.
Not being that familiar with other drug cases in the country, I can't dispute your claim, but there seems to be a lot more here.
But, I guess it's alright. It's Rush! And, it wasn't speed (it was downers) they were/are investigating.

It isn't the use, it was the methods of obtaining the MASSIVE QUANTITIES OF DRUGS, and circumventing the other laws. Hiding behind the "I was addicted, and ashamed" story, demeans him, IMO.
You (apologists) are a bunch of hypocrites, who probably wouldn't hesitate to criticize these actions, if it were Tom Brokaw!
I have been a Dittohead since 1987, Freeper since I got here! But, I'm not blind, and I think for myself!
162 posted on 12/04/2003 12:41:00 PM PST by pageonetoo (Rush didn't know??? But now, we all know! He probably broke the law! {Unless you're in de Nile!})
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To: pageonetoo
I did confuse the issue in making the point, but don't back off from my claim. Are you saying that what he did is OK with you, and we should overlook his RECREATIONAL DRUG USE, because WE like him?

Good grief, I didn't say anything close to that.

I asked you if what you were stating as facts which Rush has confirmed has actually been confirmed by him.

For the record, my position on this is that so far I know for a fact, because it has been established as fact, that Rush is addicted to painkillers. That's it. The rest, unless I missed something, is speculation. I'm willing to wait for the facts to be established before I start throwing around accusations or piling on with gossip.

You keep repeating that Rush admited to using "massive" quantities of drugs. Has he? I haven't heard that. I don't believe that the quantity of drugs that he was taking has been established at all.

As to your number two, you are incorrect. Rush did not admit to trying to avoid reporting requirements. He has said, and events have borne out, that his bank asked him to do some withdrawals in that manner. His bank has subsequently been charged a huge fine by the government because they were indeed guilty of what Rush claimed. You ask who could possibly need such large amounts of cash. Rush is not a typical person. He makes tens of millions of dollars per year. I would guess that what he considers normal amounts of money to have on hand differs greatly than what you or I might consider normal.

Your multiple sources you claim confirm that Rush got the drugs illegally are the maid and the National Enquirer which quoted the maid, so that's not multiple sources, but one -- the maid. He probably did obtain them illegally, but again, it makes more sense to wait for the FACTS to emerge than it does to jump to conclusions that could hurt someone.

As to what consequences he should face for being addicted to drugs, most people who end up addicted to prescribed painkillers get no more than a slap on the wrist for a first offense.

Rush knew what he was doing, and he's a grown man. He can handle whatever consequences he will have to face for his actions. I just expect the authorities and the general public to be fair and not expect him to pay a higher price because he's rich and famous.

163 posted on 12/04/2003 12:48:38 PM PST by alnick
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To: B-Chan
B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)

Yeah. Just who are you proposing for King of Texas?

164 posted on 12/04/2003 12:50:36 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: pageonetoo
Your tagline says it all. PROBABLY.
165 posted on 12/04/2003 12:56:25 PM PST by alnick
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Thanks for the tip. Quite remarkable what a difference a little know-how can make.
167 posted on 12/04/2003 12:57:24 PM PST by Reagan Renaissance
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To: drjimmy
There is no law that allows a person to be audited to determine which criminal laws may have been violated. You have to actually be caught violating a law and then discovery is conducted in relation to that law. I have never, and no collegue has ever heard of a user's medical records being subpoenaed by the prosecutor's office.

I have provided medical records to show that all pills found on the person DURING AN ARREST were actually legally obtained. This shoots down an existing case. Never does a prosecutor go to the effort of themselves finding out how a user obtained the perscription drugs on their person. This case, if it was real should have been dumped in drug court, the only reasons it has not are: 1-there is not case or 2-they are going to keep fishing and fishing until they can find the teeeeeeeny tinnnnny-ist detail that they can charge rush out of drug court.

This is not an existing case, this is PREFILING!

It could very well be that these doctors are going to be pressured to flip on rush or have their own problems for other matters.
168 posted on 12/04/2003 1:00:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: alnick
" His bank has subsequently been charged a huge fine by the government because they were indeed guilty of what Rush claimed."

His bank paid because they were guilty of failing to report his NUMEROUS transactions, when they were transparent in function... I do not think it says anywhere that they admitted telling him to do it. I have enough to make a lot of similar transactions, and I KNOW THE LAW. I know literally dozens of 'millionaires', and I know it is NOT their standard practice to do this, nor carry large amounts of CASH.

Rush Limbaugh has admitted RECREATIONAL USE OF DRUGS. He stated that he took them in large quantities. I used my own language to make my point, but it was in that context. The rest of it is just hyperbole, to confuse issues, and deflect the point that his actions can be prosecuted, AS CRIMINAL!

And I do not support prosecuting Rush, except where he broke the law!
When I drive 10 over, I constantly look in my rear view mirror, for flashing lights! I have a radar detector on my dash. Rush should use his truth detector more, and the apologists here should help abolish the WOD!.
169 posted on 12/04/2003 1:00:40 PM PST by pageonetoo (de Nile! is a river of sympathy for Rush!)
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To: Zabr
But again, what Rush was going (regarding money transfers) is not illegal.

I think this will be thrown out of court in a heartbeat if Roy Black has anything to do with it..

170 posted on 12/04/2003 1:02:07 PM PST by hapc
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To: B-Chan
Well said. It's nice to be reminded once in while of our humanity and our lack of divinity.
171 posted on 12/04/2003 1:02:37 PM PST by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Pilsner
I'm not.
172 posted on 12/04/2003 1:03:38 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: pageonetoo
I know literally dozens of 'millionaires', and I know it is NOT their standard practice to do this, nor carry large amounts of CASH.


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This only proves you either know no one in that income bracket or they are not telling you anything because it is none of your business. Did they show you their private safe's too?

The bank did admit they advised their clients to keep transactions bellow the limit.
173 posted on 12/04/2003 1:09:01 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: RebelBanker
"Also, advising a customer to make several smaller transactions to avoid the reporting requirement is a violation of the law on the banker's part."Sounds like the law in Big Brotherland or maybe in Never-neverland. Or maybe the law in an America where the inmates are in control of asylum.
174 posted on 12/04/2003 1:09:08 PM PST by Reagan Renaissance
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To: RebelBanker
"Reputable banks DO NOT ask customers to do this"

Perhaps. So the customer is responsible for the bank asking them to do something they wouldn't know was against the law? Interesting. It would seem that the bank could then be held civily liable if a customer was prosecuted.

175 posted on 12/04/2003 1:09:20 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: alnick; pageonetoo
Your multiple sources you claim confirm that Rush got the drugs illegally are the maid and the National Enquirer which quoted the maid, so that's not multiple sources, but one -- the maid

What about the emails reproduced by the National Enquirer?

Do you think that National Enquirer or the maid fabricated those e-mails also?

176 posted on 12/04/2003 1:14:05 PM PST by george wythe
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To: pageonetoo
Rush Limbaugh has admitted RECREATIONAL USE OF DRUGS. He stated that he took them in large quantities. I used my own language to make my point, but it was in that context.

He has admitted to recreational use of drugs, yes. I'm not aware that he has stated anything regarding quantity. Do you have a quote?

The rest is supposition by you. As I've stated, I'm sure that he will face the consequences of his actions like a man. I expect that of him anyway, just as I expect conservatives to wait for facts to be established rather than to pile on with gossip.

177 posted on 12/04/2003 1:14:33 PM PST by alnick
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To: GovernmentShrinker
First time I have seen your screen name. You have your work cut out for you. But as far as I can tell you are either currently unemployed or shirking intstead of shrinking.
178 posted on 12/04/2003 1:15:06 PM PST by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Reagan Renaissance
Shirking.
179 posted on 12/04/2003 1:17:39 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: alnick
Do you have to be recreationally using to be an addict? Don't think so. In Rush's situation, he was taking them and them over taking them for the percieved pain in his back and neck.

He has yet to state he was taking them for fun.
180 posted on 12/04/2003 1:21:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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