Vince Foster: What the Media Won’t Tell You

NewsMax.com ^ | 12/04/03

[Travis McGee]

What's your take?

[Triple]

I am certain that VF did not die in that park.

Thanks for the post.

[Itzlzha]

She believes the gun found at the park was the one that came from his father's collection.

Sure she did...after the requisite amount of "coaching" by the FBI, Bernie Nussbaum, and others in La Cosa Klinton.

If anyone cares to think woman are so stupid they don't know silver from black, nickled from blued, auto from revolver, so be it.

If you believe ANYTHING that came from the La Cosa Klinton admin...let alone the pressured widow, so be it!

Her "testimony" verus those there on the scene, AND the records...I know where I stand.

[Mpatl]

OK, I'll play. Why?

[thesummerwind]

Newsflash: Martha Washington will serve time before Hillary Clinton.

LOL........You're most likely correctamundo. The Cubs and the Redsox will win the World Series before Hillary feels the heat.

LOL!

[thesummerwind]

O by the way, on an entirely unrelated topic, of course the woman is a criminal and guilty as hell.

LOL, again!

[thesummerwind]

OK, I'll play. Why?

I was expecting you to answer.........just kidding.

Well, since Livingsone and Kennedy came to the building in two cars and had to (or chose to) leave in just one car, there is a possibility that, in their haste to shove a set of keys into Vince's pocket (like the Keystone Cops) one of them shoved one of their own sets of keys in Vince's pocket by mistake.

Nah! But why did they leave in only one car?

One of life's mysteries.

[ladyjane]

How do you know they left in one car?

[Shooter 2.5]

The only fact I see staring you in the face is a minor little detail in this whole saga and you still want to cling to a Black/Silver gun issue.

If you can't get some minor comment like this right, you lost the entire controversy.

Wow, imagine the inability of someone who can't conceive of the possibility of a person owning more than one handgun. Somehow I'm not surprised.

[thesummerwind]

Just as guess............Well, since Livingsone and Kennedy came to the building in two cars and had to (or chose to) leave in just one car, there is a possibility that, in their haste to shove a set of keys into Vince's pocket (like the Keystone Cops) one of them shoved one of their own sets of keys in Vince's pocket by mistake. Nah! But why did they leave in only one car?

Whadaya think?

[thesummerwind]

see post # 50.

Or, maybe thaey just wanted to go off to the park and eat some burgers together.

I'm just guessing.

[ladyinred]

Get this! I even wonder if Ken Starr didn't intentionally not find anything at all, and if he wasn't just a Clinton/Reno plant to begin with. I read somewhere that the White House cheered when he was named the SP. Something just stinks about the entire investigation to me.

It seems no one wants to do anything about the obvious crimes of the Clintons, but I am wondering now with all of the little things coming out, drip, drip, drip, if maybe the Justice dept. hasn't been working on this behind the scenes all along to keep this administration out of it. Political fallout for W would be great if he were seen as allowing any investigation of the hero and heroine of liberals. Just a thought.

[Triple]

Is this the case where the gun in question had a trace run on its serial number a couple of months before VF supposedly used it to off himself?

I recall something to this effect.

Regards,

[thesummerwind]

How do you know they left in one car?

page 169, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton", "The activities of Livingstone and Kennedy on that night do not make sense. They arrived at the morgue seperately. But they left together, driving the twenty miles back to Kennedy's home in Alexandria in the same car."

How's that? Very strange, if you ask me.

[MamaLucci]

I even wonder if Ken Starr didn't intentionally not find anything at all,.....

Back during the Clinton/Lewinsky saga there were people here who thought
Ken Starr was a clinton stooge. I considered that the
stuff of tin-foil conspiracy theorists......until I found out
about Starr's chi-com connections.
Turns out he and Bill had (have?) the same benefactors.

[ladyinred]

Yes, they did have the same benefactors. That and other things make me wonder.

[TigersEye]

If anyone cares to think woman are so stupid they don't know silver from black, nickled from blued, auto from revolver, so be it.

I agree completely. It is stupid to think Lisa Foster wouldn't know the difference between a silver gun and a black gun.

From the FBI transcript of the interview with Lisa Foster.
lf=Lisa Foster vf=Vince Foster lr=Little Rock:

as lf was packing in lr to come to dc, found gun. sharon asked for a handgun, lf gave it to her. lf packed a silver colored gun in lr, unpacked it in d.c. vf saw it and exclaimed. lf has no conver w/ vf re brinGing gun to dc but she

lf knew location of a gun and found it still there on 7/20/93. It was not the silver gun. lf thinks the vf gun may be the silver gun she brought up

This commentary is from the website:

This set of notes verifies what was reported in the FBI file. Lisa Foster thinks that the gun found with Vincent Foster is the silver gun she herself brought up to Washington D.C.

That would appear to be true enough from my reading of the transcript ... yet:

Here is a Park Police report describing the gun as black.

Here are Park Police photos of a black gun.

This page has a couple of real nice photos of the official "death gun" in the VF case. Like this one:

There's nothing quite like this picture from ABC News of a black gun in VF's cold dead (completely unstained) hand.

I don't see anywhere that Lisa Foster says her husband had been depressed but she did say this to the FBI about the alleged suicide note:

was written on or about 7/11/93. 7/4 - 7/20 somewhere in there - a lot of kids in house. lf asked vf to go to the ?????; he declined. lf sugg. vf write down everything "they" did wrong. lf told him to go on the offensive. vf agreed, sat up, seemed energized- "haven't resigned yet" vf said he had already written his opening argument. lf thinks that's what the note is.

As a complete aside to the silver/black gun issue I find this quote by a good Clinton friend very interesting:

"Don't believe a word you hear. It was not suicide. It couldn't have been." -Assistant Attorney General Webster Hubbell, 7/20/93, cited in Esquire, 11/93.

[TigersEye]

Shooter 2.5 She believes the gun found at the park was the one that came from his father's collection.

Itzlzha Sure she did...after the requisite amount of "coaching" by the FBI, Bernie Nussbaum, and others in La Cosa Klinton.

I don't know what kind of game Shooter is playing here but he has twisted the transcript. She did say what he says above. If you go to the page and paragraph he points to you'll find it.

However in the same transcript she also says she believes the gun VF used was silver. What isn't said in the transcript is what gun or what color of gun the FBI showed her. At the time of these interviews she undeniably believed the gun found on his body, I mean allegedly found on his body, was silver.

[TigersEye]

I don't know the answer to your question. I hadn't heard that.

[TigersEye]

......until I found out about Starr's chi-com connections.

I hadn't heard that before but wasn't it the Clinton WH that asked for an Independent Counsel. And wasn't it Reno that chose Starr?