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To: hchutch; Poohbah; 4Freedom
Are you seriously saying that some people are inferior based on their genetic makeup?

No, I'm saying people's genetic makeup is one of many factors that determines people's intelligence, creativity, and talent. Where did this talk of superiority come from?

Genetics are not the defining factor. The defining factor is what one makes of the talents and the life God has given them.

You are in as much denial as the people who denied that the Earth orbits the sun. Genetics, which in part determine what talents you have, are one factor among others. Of course what you do with your talents is important, but you can't do much with talents you don't have.

I do not see how race or culture can have an effect on that.

It is a scientific fact that there are genetic differences between population groups that results in the different groups having different talents.

Now obviously, talents are not everything, but they are important. Without talent, you can't be a worldclass athlete. Without talent, you can't be a virtuoso pianist. Without talent, you can't be a brilliant mathematician or scientist.

Of course, just having talent is not enough. You have to work to develop it. But just the same, talent it is necessary.

But we're getting off topic. Please point out to me exactly where Mr. Francis' statement is wrong.

79 posted on 12/03/2003 11:23:07 AM PST by traditionalist
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To: traditionalist
I can think of several examples in sports which would disprove Mr. Francis. Players whose effort more than made up for a lack of talent. Tom Waddle, a wide receiver with the Chicago Bears from 1989-1994, lacked speed, which many considered ESSENTIAL for a wideout in the NFL. Yet from 1991-1994, he ended up being arguably the most reliable wide receiver the Bears had in those years. That came through pure effort.

Take someone with a good work ethic from anywhere on this globe, be he/she Mexican, Chinese, African, Arab, or European, and they and/or their children will do just fine here in the United States - no matter what their genetic makeup is.

Genetics do not define destiny. They have less influence in it than the effort and character of an individual.
84 posted on 12/03/2003 11:37:18 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: traditionalist
I'm saying people's genetic makeup is one of many factors that determines people's intelligence, creativity, and talent. Where did this talk of superiority come from?

I suppose that whether or not "intelligence", "creativity", and "talent" imply "superiority" depends on what the definition of "is" is....

109 posted on 12/03/2003 12:22:19 PM PST by steve-b
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