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To: RussianConservative
187 - "What is interesting is history, in history where aristocracy had absolute power of peasants, they may have played and lived for moment but much because any day could bring peasant revolts...those nations far from stable and revolts and massacre were yearly thing...just look at Latin America and Africa."

Very good observation. I agree. And your idea is also very relavent as to why the US and North Europe have succeeded so well compared to other countries. - Their Religion.

For example - Russia had the religion of czarism then communism (dictatorship of the proletariat) - supporting dictatorships and not thinking. Muslims have a religion of obedience and not thinking and non-responsibility - it is Allah's will. Catholic countries have a religion of not thinking and irresresponsibility - 'say 3 hail Mary's and you are forgiven' (all of Latin America is Catholic). African tribalism, not thinking, just follow your leader.

Only Protestantism, 'you better do it right, or fix it, or believe, etc or you will burn in Hell' seems to have promoted individual responsibility, promoting innovation etc.

And now socialism is destroying that beautiful, creative, rewarding culture.


192 posted on 12/03/2003 10:10:20 AM PST by XBob
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To: XBob
Orthodoxy does not breed blind obedience and for that matter it was not like Western propaganda under Tsars. In 1923 communists do survey of who in Russia read and write from age 15 - 25...it was 70% literacy rate, so obviously most peoples knew to read and write under Tsar (government fall 1917). Education was very high agenda and even under Catherine the Great labor laws passed (note that translation of Russian laws forbidden as sedition in England and France) and under Alexander II unions legal...that mean unions legal in 1860 or so....when legal in West?

Problem for Russia is that one: US, British and French business leaders (read Oligarchs) worry of Russian massive industrialization on going at period (10% growth rate for last 4 years before WW1) and work hard to discredit Tsar and support rebellion and then Kaiser give 50 gold mark credit to Bolshaviks.

199 posted on 12/03/2003 12:18:44 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: XBob
Oh don't forget utopian and murderous anabaptists, autocratic Calvinists and also England under Protestants and all N. Europe under Lutherins.
200 posted on 12/03/2003 12:19:47 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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