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The Pain of Coping When a Job Is Snatched Away
The New York Times ^ | December 1, 2003 | JILL ANDRESKY FRASER

Posted on 12/01/2003 4:31:00 PM PST by Willie Green

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THREE years ago, Susan Sullivan, then 34, and her husband, Peter, 44, were thriving. The couple, both marketing professionals, worked hard and enjoyed a combined income of about $250,000 a year.

Then, within two weeks of each other in the spring of 2001, the Sullivans lost their jobs, right about the time that she became pregnant. Unable to find work, they moved from Newton, Mass., a pricey Boston suburb, to Worcester, to cut their living expenses. With job prospects slim, they began entrepreneurial ventures: she, a marketing consulting firm, and he, a computer network security firm. Their daughter is now almost two. With combined yearly earnings of about $20,000, they have cut their spending to the bone and make ends meet with food stamps and credit cards.

"We had about $40,000 in savings, but we spent that a long time ago," Ms. Sullivan said. "Now we owe more money in credit card bills than I ever would have believed possible. We don't spend money on anything at all that isn't a complete necessity. Your whole way of thinking changes. The other day I was so excited: I got a credit card offer for a new card that will give us a long period with zero percent financing."

The Sullivans are scarcely alone. There were, on average, 8.4 million unemployed Americans in 2002. By October, according to the most current statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, their ranks had grown to 8.8 million. One out of every four had been looking for a job for 27 weeks or longer, up from one out of five a year earlier.

And many who are working do so only part time. In October, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 4.8 million people were involuntarily working part time - either because they could not find full-time jobs or because their employers had put them on part-time schedules. That is up 11.6 percent, from 4.3 million a year earlier.

In recent years, the effect of widespread joblessness on consumption patterns in the United States has been tough to recognize, largely because so many people, employed as well as unemployed, have relied heavily upon credit cards, mortgage refinancings and other loans to sustain spending that might otherwise have been unaffordable.

That spending has helped cushion the economy through some rocky times. "But the big question, moving forward, is whether we'll see enough recovery in the labor market so that income growth will be able to replace all these one-time events, like tax cuts and refinancings," Jared Bernstein, senior economist with the Economic Policy Institute in Washington, said.

With recent rosy news about the economy's third quarter, it might be hoped that increased hiring will enable households to recover from the financial difficulties of unemployment. But interviews with men and women in a variety of careers, family situations and cities across the country suggest that even as jobs are filled, the personal economic pain for those who have long been unemployed will be long lasting.

Consider Quay Anderson, a 30-year-old father of three young children, who lost his job as a crane operator in February. His job, which paid $16 an hour, had been the sole source of income for his family in Carlisle, Pa. Now, after going through retraining at the Regional Manufacturing Workforce Transition Center in Steelton, Pa., Mr. Anderson is on the verge of being hired as a commercial driver. But he said that it could take as long as five years of steady employment to get his family back in the financial shape they enjoyed before he lost his job.

"We've completely maxed out on credit cards and any other credit lines we had," he said. "I had a gun collection that I sold in order to raise money for groceries." The family does not spend money on anything that is not necessary. It is upsetting "when your kids want to go to Wendy's or McDonald's and you've got to say no," he said.

"We can't take them to see 'Brother Bear' in the movies," he said, "because we can't afford four movie tickets.''

A close look at household spending suggests the multiplicity of ways, large and small, that the rise in unemployment in the past year or so has affected consumption patterns and the economy.

"We have a 6-year-old son, and, although it's not the end of the world, it would have been nice to give him music lessons, but we can't," said Ellen Ball, 44, of Brookline, Mass. "We don't eat out. We don't travel. I used to make charitable contributions in the past. Now I ask, when people call, 'Can I give you my time instead?' "

Before Ms. Ball and her 42-year-old husband, Bruce Haimowitz, lost their jobs as software engineers in 2002, they earned a combined income well into the six figures. He was out of work for about a year before landing two jobs - one part time, one full time - that between them pay him about $45,000 a year. After looking for more than a year herself, Ms. Ball expects to start work shortly at a part-time $12-an-hour job. "We can't save,'' she said. "We don't entertain at all. We're in a holding pattern."

The path out of long-term unemployment is often a part-time job or full-time work at a lower pay scale, but it is not a promising path.

"The problem is the overarching forces that have resulted in major job losses and downward income mobility are permanent," said Stephen Roach, chief economist of Morgan Stanley. "If anything, they'll intensify, as high-wage jobs in both production and the services continue to move to countries like China and India where costs are lower. That's going to keep consumers under a lot of pressure."

Not surprisingly, families with nest eggs and other savings have been best able to cope with prolonged joblessness and declining household earnings. As soon as Mr. Haimowitz found work, he and Ms. Ball, lifelong savers, were able to refinance their mortgage, which helped lower their monthly expenses.

Andrea, 45, and Will Gill, 50, actually traded up to a $450,000 home in Smithtown, N.Y., even after Mr. Gill, a computer network consultant, had been out of work for two years. Mrs. Gill, an online manager for a travel agency, has had three years of pay cuts. Their household income is now about a third of what it used to be.

"We had built up equity in our old house, have always been savers, and we didn't have any credit card debt," Mr. Gill said. "Since buying the house, we can manage just by taking about $20,000 out of our savings each year. By most people's standards, we're not hurting."

But even the Gills have cut their spending. "When our bedroom set was falling apart, we fixed it rather than buying a new one," Mrs. Gill said. During this holiday season, they expect to cut their gift-buying budget by about two-thirds.

The question for many is whether the national economy will be able to shrug off the impact of the prolonged joblessness of families like these without skipping a beat. Their spending patterns and savings cushions, after all, have remained relatively strong. But the impact on the economy may be more pronounced when it comes to those households that experienced job losses when they had little or no savings, high levels of debt, or both. For those families, financial problems have escalated, and they may pose some collective risks to the economy.

One risk arises from households that have cashed in part or all of their retirement savings to meet day-to-day expenses. "Out here, where home prices are really high, there are a lot of couples with mortgages that only can be supported on two incomes," said Dan Rink, a career coach in Alameda, Calif. "When one spouse loses a job, it's a catastrophe. I see a lot of unemployed people who are drawing down their retirement funds just in order to make their mortgage payments."

A more immediate high-risk decision among the unemployed is whether to give up health insurance. "It's more important for us to stay current with our mortgage payments," said Robert Love, 60, of Houston, who lost his job as a manager of safety and quality control about two years ago. Neither he nor his wife, Ann, 56, who works as a receptionist at a beauty salon, has health insurance. "Quite honestly, you try not to think about it," he said. "Just hope everyone stays healthy."

The need for such survival strategies raises the prospect that large numbers of tapped-out baby boomers will reach retirement unprepared. Jonathan Greentree, 51, of Columbus, Ohio, lost his public relations job in 2001. He is now working in a part-time $8-an-hour retailing job that will last only through the holiday season.

Mr. Greentree has pared his budget to essentials but says he has been unable to make more than a year's worth of child-support payments for his 15-year-old son. He owes real estate taxes on his home, has depleted his savings, spent the proceeds raised from a mortgage refinancing, tapped out a line of credit and accumulated large credit card debts.

"To be real honest, college savings have fallen by the wayside," he said. "I have very little retirement savings. It's scary. If I ever do get a job, I've got to get credit counseling because I don't know how to solve these problems."

Some people do manage to re-enter the work force and regain financial stability, but still feel anxieties. Ian Boardman, 44, of Arlington, Mass., who has a doctorate in cognitive science and experience at some dot-com start-ups, has had two different bouts of unemployment since the spring of 2001. Recently, he was hired by a research laboratory, weeks before his unemployment insurance would have run out.

"My wife is a financial whiz who has renegotiated our mortgage twice to save money," he said. "We've been able to make do on unemployment, with a little help from our parents. We're not big on consumption anyway."

But Mr. Boardman emphasized that he and his family lost their sense of security. "We are middle class," he said. "We're good people. And what does the system say to us? 'Sink or swim.' "

The biggest question for many people is: What will happen if new job opportunities are indeed created during the recovery but do not provide enough pay and benefits to repair the financial damage caused by prolonged unemployment?

That is a question facing Richie Calladio-Nuzzo; his wife, Jenni; and their 13-year-old daughter, Michelle, of Newton, Conn. Mr. Calladio-Nuzzo, 34, an electrician, used to earn at least $30 an hour, with benefits, in union-covered jobs. But he spent nine months during 2002 unemployed and still could not find work in the winter and spring of 2003.

"It was really bad," he recalled. "All last winter, we kept our house heated at 58 degrees. Early on, we maxed out on our credit cards, and we couldn't keep up with the payments we owed. I don't go to the doctor at all. But when it comes to a choice between buying medicine for my wife, who has asthma, and eyeglasses for my daughter, who needs them to see, or paying the electric bill, well, we did what we could. Fortunately, the electric company can't cut you off during the winter."

In May, Mr. Calladio-Nuzzo received permission from his union to take a nonunion job, which pays $20 an hour, and offers no benefits.

"I'm glad to be working, but let's be real," he said. "The only impact this job has had is that I no longer have to call the phone company and electric company to make special payment arrangements. Our heater is broken upstairs, and I can't afford to bring in a plumber to fix it. We still have to screen our phone calls. A collection agency will call and say, 'Make a one-time payment of $800.' And I tell them, 'Are you kidding? If I could pay you $800, wouldn't I have just paid the $100 minimum that's due?' "

From Mr. Calladio-Nuzzo's perspective, it is difficult to see any light at the end of the tunnel. "You think you'd enjoy it to know that you're not going through this alone," he said. "But when I see the guys that I've worked with, it's awful. We look at each other and say, 'It's never going to end.' "

That is just what Pam Shira Fleetman, 55, a technical writer in Acton, Mass., fears. She has been out of work since July 2002, and recently cashed in her retirement account so she could pay enough of her overdue mortgage and property tax bills to avoid losing her house. She has "huge" credit card bills. Her car is nearly nine years old. A divorced parent, she worries that next year, when her son turns 13, she will not have any money to spend on a bar mitzvah.

"When I think about all this," Ms. Fleetman said, "there's just one question I'd like to ask all those titans of industry who are laying people off and outsourcing all those jobs overseas: 'Who do you think you're going to be able to sell your products and services to here in the U.S.?' "


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KEYWORDS: globalism; thebusheconomy
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To: RussianConservative
Thanks for posting #142.

The "free-traitors" will be dogfood before they recognize their part in the communist cycle.

161 posted on 12/02/2003 12:11:43 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: anniegetyourgun
154 - " Got to stay at least 12 months ahead of the organization AND the industry. That takes homework and lots of networking."

If you are able to do this, why do you even need to get a job? You should be ruling the world.
162 posted on 12/02/2003 12:24:51 PM PST by XBob
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To: Jackson Brown
Excuse me, it lose, not loses.

Excuse me, it's it's, not it. ;)

163 posted on 12/02/2003 12:52:03 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: kezekiel
Play nice Now
164 posted on 12/02/2003 1:00:14 PM PST by commonerX
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To: speedy
Yep, sounds like these two were spending it faster than they made it when the getting was good. It still doesn't make sense to me how you could have the capacity to make a quarter of a million one year and only 25 thousand the next. You don't think the Times would lie to us, do you?

I'll withhold comment on their spending, but I can tell you that thirty-fifty something professionals, if their sector crashes as tech did, may find it very difficult indeed to get jobs that normally go to younger or less experienced workers. Employers generally don't like to employ people who are totally over-qualified, no matter how desperate they may be for work. So, paradoxically, it can be just as hard to find a McJob as it is to find a job in your current field.

By the way, when the tech crash wiped out my career (both in components trading, which was my primary income, and tech writing, which was my secondary income), at one point I took a job cleaning grocery stores on graveyard shifts so that I could leave my days open for job interviews. One position I spent six months interviewing for just before the company imposed a hiring freeze.

Being out in the cold changes your perspective. Things are okay for us now--we are making ends meet, thank God--but we are still making only a third of what we were at our peak. Don't flippantly dismiss the trauma if you haven't gone through it yourself. It sucks.

165 posted on 12/02/2003 1:00:55 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: XBob
May explain why I haven't HAD to work for the last decade. I dabble in those things that interest me. Teach a class, sit on boards, identify and train leaders, invest, write, organize events, raise millions for various organizations, and so on. I may go back to "work" full-time someday - got another 10-15 years I'm willing to give a hi-pot organization before I "retire" again. (I hate that term....if I ever stop moving long enough to actually retire, I'll probably be on my deathbed.)
166 posted on 12/02/2003 2:00:07 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: KC_Conspirator
Numerous times I have been told that since I would be taking pay cut, I would most likely leave at the first opportunity.

And it's probably true as well. Your best bet is convince the interviewer that you are more interested in stability than pay.

167 posted on 12/02/2003 2:56:46 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Willie Green
Where do you get your expertise? I am pretty darn sure I know a heck of a lot more than you about what's going on in the steel industry. Name-calling - for some silly reason I expected better from you, WG.
168 posted on 12/02/2003 4:21:25 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Willie Green
Lets start a 12 step program ....
169 posted on 12/02/2003 4:22:38 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: mountaineer
Where do you get your expertise?

Family genetics.
Do you really want a list of all my ancestors and relations who sweated in Henry Clay Frick's coal mines and coke furnaces and Andrew Carnegie's mills? Or is it sufficient for you to know that my dad was a manufacturing engineer for one of the major mills and I grew up not only visiting him at work and listening to all his challenges and achievements, I decided to follow in his footsteps in my own professional education and career.

I am pretty darn sure I know a heck of a lot more than you about what's going on in the steel industry.

Unless you enjoy discussing the technical merits of various steel alloys more than Pittsburgher's like to talk about the Steelers or Permanti sammiches, I sincerely doubt it, sweetie.

Name-calling - for some silly reason I expected better from you, WG.

Yeah, name calling. You bash your neighbors and then whine when I've deliberately refrained from chastising you in more traditional 'Burgh fashion.

As we discussed earlier, there are no economic panaceas on the horizon for your region's prosperity. I strongly suggest you make some attempt at preserving what you have instead of rooting for further decline.

170 posted on 12/02/2003 5:16:06 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
No more response from me. You've made a big enough fool of yourself.
171 posted on 12/02/2003 5:21:06 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Willie Green

I have no sympathy whatsoever for a couple that makes a quarter million a year.

At that rate, unless one idiotically buries themselves in a deep hole of debt, one can be debt free in a year or two.

I make "high 5s" my wife doesn't work(enough to matter) and I've got nearly a year's worth of living expenses saved up.

If these people were making over two and half times what I make, there is simply no excuse for them. With their kind of salary, I would have everything paid off inside of 6 months. Mortgage and all..and I live in New Jersey and Commute to about 6 miles of NYC. It's about discipline and not needing a 3500 foot house. My house is under 1000 Square and I'll be out of my mortgage in 10 years and I'm 36. These people are idjits.

-Mal
172 posted on 12/02/2003 5:29:00 PM PST by Malsua
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To: mountaineer
No more response from me. You've made a big enough fool of yourself.

Hey, YOU'RE the one who is whining because your neighbors make too much money for what you ignorantly describe as manual labor. I have no idea what kind of "diverse" industry you think is going to bring prosperity to the region, but it sure as heck isn't going to be tourism, casino gambling and socialized medicine.

173 posted on 12/02/2003 5:33:39 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child; azcap
This is actually a very positive story. It shows that at some point in their lives even two stupid people can make $250K. This story should serve as hope for all stupid people out there.

LOL!!

I once asked an immigrant what he found most fascinating about the United States, and he replied (with total, sincere humility) that he was amazed to live in a place where even dumb people could earn a lot of money.

ROFLMAO!!! Thanks guys....

174 posted on 12/02/2003 5:41:05 PM PST by stands2reason ("Don't funk with my funk."--Bootsy Collins)
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To: mountaineer
I am pretty darn sure I know a heck of a lot more than you about what's going on in the steel industry.

,,, if you're in the steel industry, is your knowledge enough to save your job?

175 posted on 12/02/2003 5:46:45 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: baltodog
But at the risk of torquing anyone off -- everyone who got laid off at our plant deserved it and the company is better without them.

I agree. They're just more lazy American's that probably didn't deserve jobs anyway. Better to hire illegal aliens and people from India. They don't complain and work longer hours for less.

Go Bush!

176 posted on 12/02/2003 5:53:48 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Jim Cane
An argument can be made that poverty is negative reinforcement - the wages of sin, as it were.

And wealth is the sign of virtue and eternal election. So what does the fall of the wealthy during the revolutions mean - the loss of divine grace? How it can be reconciled with the predestination?

177 posted on 12/02/2003 5:56:55 PM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
All I can say is, I believe there's justice in the world. If you believe in kicking the crap out of others while they're down, well... we'll see. It may well be that your time is coming, someday, to understand what it's like.

It's called payback. And these hardcase types will squeal like stuck pigs when it comes back on them.

178 posted on 12/02/2003 9:18:15 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: rb22982
But I have said to interviewers that stability is what I want but to no avail.
179 posted on 12/02/2003 11:21:46 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: RussianConservative
I don't know if you are really a "Russian conservative", but what you state is so true....

we here in America and on Fr get so wrapped up in this false illusion called "free trade"....

there is no free trade....

all trade in one way or another is fixed...

remember, all of North America is supposed to be one big happy trading family EXCEPT when it comes to certain things...like prescription drugs.....then all of a sudden, we just can't let those Americans get the same drugs at discount prices as we let the Canadians....

I heard today that China now has an apple industry 10x that of Washington State, and they are now sending their apple juice here...

when we lose our farm industry, maybe then people will sit up and notice...

180 posted on 12/03/2003 12:03:30 AM PST by cherry
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