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To: John Valentine
You are not getting my point while also confirming it.

I know how fast light travels compared to sound. Which is why, at long distances, you hear a plane and then see it ahead of the sound. The bullet was fired in much closer proximity. I was simply pointing out how the brain takes sight over hearing into account.

There are plenty of other pictures showing people looking up at the book depository. Again, it depends on where they stood and what they saw. As you can see in the pictures and the Magruder film, people are looking all over. Shots ringing out in that type of setting create richochet sounds as they focus on the forward movement of the vehicles. Their brains convince them the shots came from a forward position. Many others heard it from behind. Also, many are convinced the shot to the head had to come from the front because it exploded from the front when any hunter knows the exit wound is where the damage occurs, not the entrance point.

Orientation is key. Haven't you ever had a cricket in the house and you just can't seem to find where the chirping is coming from? As you move more towards where you THINK you heard it from, it changes. Not because the cricket is moving, but because once you change orientation it effects your perception.

Again, my point was the difference between seeing and hearing and how the brain interprets those inputs. My analogy is far from misdirected. It proves my point. Some people SAW the head shot before they heard it and their brain just convinced them it was from the knoll and not behind them at the book depository. The sound came too late for them to make a correct judgement.

Thanks for proving my point.

11 posted on 12/01/2003 12:59:28 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Fledermaus
As you can see in the pictures and the Magruder film...

That would presumably be the Zapruder film? Shot by Dallas clothier Abraham Zapruder with his new 8mm Bell & Howell Model 414PD Zoomatic Director Series camera with Kodachrome II color film through a Varamat 9-27mm f1.8 zoom lens, set to the 27mm telephoto setting? Or have I overlooked another film all these years?

-archy-/-

17 posted on 12/01/2003 7:01:44 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Fledermaus
Some people SAW the head shot before they heard it and their brain just convinced them it was from the knoll and not behind them at the book depository.

I have no idea why seeing the head shot would cause them to direct their visual attention to the grassy knoll. The people who heard the shots coming from the grassy knoll were standing in FRONT of the grassy knoll and couldn't even see it when they first heard the sound of the shots. What was there about seeing Kennedy shot in front of them that would direct their eyes to something BEHIND them? When you look at a plane that's a mile up, the difference in location between where it was when it first was in earshot and where it is when you look up is only a slight turn of the head. So your analogy makes no sense.

28 posted on 12/01/2003 7:49:36 AM PST by lasereye
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