5-year-old girl safe after trip to drug house

Star-Telegram Dallas Bureau ^ | Nov. 29, 2003 | Mary Mckee

[Dubya]

DALLAS - A 5-year-old girl was reunited with her family Friday morning after disappearing Wednesday with a baby sitter who later took the girl to a drug house and used crack cocaine, police said.

The baby sitter, Ruth Salazar, 35, was taken into custody after returning the child about 6 a.m. She faces charges of endangering a child and possibly theft and unlawful restraint, Sgt. David Pughes said.

The child, Braseida Zavala, was in good spirits and did not appear to be harmed, although she will be interviewed by child-abuse specialists next week as a precaution.

"We got her some McDonald's and she was just as happy as she can be," said Pughes, a supervisor in the youth and family support division.

Braseida had been reported missing Wednesday night by her mother, Erika Vegadezavala. The mother told police that she had asked Salazar to care for her daughter and had lent the woman her car, but Salazar never returned with the child, Pughes said.

Salazar told police that she was going to the store Thursday with Braseida but decided to buy crack cocaine at an apartment. She used the drug and remained at the apartment until seeing media reports about the missing child Friday morning, police said.

Salazar then returned to her home and notified the police and the girl's mother, Pughes said.

"It was a situation where she's got a drug problem and the drugs became the most important thing," Pughes said. "That's all she was concerned about."

The girl's mother told police that Salazar had cared for her daughter before and seemed trustworthy.

"She's real happy and relieved, but at the same time she's still in a state of shock that this happened and that a person would subject her child to that," Pughes said.

Mary McKee, (972) 263-4448 mmckee@star-telegram.com

[petercooper]

U.S. citizens?

[Cultural Jihad]

Let's throw away oppressive majoritarian laws and use the often-lauded albeit untried and untrue libertarian ideology on this news item.

No one was harmed. There was neither force nor fraud used against anyone. If anything, it was a simple miscommunication brought about by a lack of signed consent forms, and even if there were consent forms drawn up, then it's all a civil matter related to breach of contract. How dare the busy-bodies put their noses into other people's business .... for the chillrun. If crack cocaine were legalized then the baby sitter wouldn't have had to go to a crack house; she could have bought some at Crack-n-Toys-R-Us.

Social-Darwinists would claim that cleansing the gene pool of stupid, gullible, overly-trusting, and guileless people should be seen as a boon to humanity.

[Dubya]

Havn't found out yet. The paper don't give that info.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Salazar told police that she was going to the store Thursday with Braseida but decided to buy crack cocaine at an apartment. She used the drug and remained at the apartment until seeing media reports about the missing child Friday morning, police said.

"It takes a village..." :)

[walford]

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[skinkinthegrass]

If crack cocaine were legalized then the baby sitter wouldn't have had to go to a crack house; she could have bought some at Crack-n-Toys-R-Us.

Incoming!..Incoming!..Bring out the fire-proofed suit, Please.

[hellinahandcart]

Do you think crack users go to crack houses for the ambience?

This one must have; she stayed there for about a day, and it sure doesn't take that long to smoke your purchase...

[general_re]

I'm inclined to agree. There's really no such thing as "a day's worth" when it comes to crack - your typical hardcore crackhead can usually suck down a rock the size of a Volkswagen in less than five minutes.

[hellinahandcart]

"Ambience" can include many things, dear. You were the one who asked the question. ;D

[hellinahandcart]

Yes, it might not have had anything to do with the crack.

Maybe there were a lot of nice young men there, improving the overall ambience.

[jmc813]

WOD Ping

[Hemingway's Ghost]

"We got her some McDonald's and she was just as happy as she can be"

McDonald's must be kiddie crack.

[Jim Cane]

Let's throw away oppressive majoritarian laws and use the often-lauded albeit untried and untrue libertarian ideology on this news item.

Just think. If we weren't busy p*ssing away our tax dollars to fund this WOD, we would have more money in our pockets, and women would be able to stay home and raise their own children, instead of hiring some loser womanchild crackhead.

The WOD doesn't keep drugs off the street, it doesn't prevent crackheads from being crackheads, and it doesn't reduce violence (quite the contrary).

It only provides for a robust black market, and the unabated coercion of the public to fund the onanistic, nomex-clad revelries of pathetic SOG wannabees.

[hellinahandcart]

Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. I know exactly what "ambience" means, and it is indeed composed of many factors. Every last one of them subjective. It's a French word, remember.