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RUSH: I'M NO HYPOCRITE
New York Post ^ | 11/25/03 | JOHN MAINELLI

Posted on 11/25/2003 1:09:09 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

November 25, 2003 -- A sneak-attack caller yesterday launched Rush Limbaugh into a defense against charges he was a hypocrite for demanding tough sentences for drug users while he himself was taking black-market pain killers. "It's not hypocritical because my behavior doesn't determine the value of right and wrong - nobody's does," Limbaugh told listeners.


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To: little jeremiah; dwilli
FL has a first offender drug court. ALL first time offenders (illegally obtaining perscription drugs) are first sent to the special drug court. There the defendant is sent to treatment as a condition of pre-trial release. Upon completion of treatment the case is dismissed. No record. Same as anyone else. Noel Bush was a participant in the same program.

All participants are uses. All participants I have ever seen were caught red handed. They had bought in a sting operation, they had phoned in a fake perscription, or they were in posession of an illegal drug. There were no months on months of "investigation".

I believe Roy Blacks role in this is to make sure this case does not get more political than it already has. Remember Palm Beach is butterfly ballot country, a Gorezone. In prefiling, a defense lawyer communicates with the lawyer in charge of determining what and when to file charges. The defense lawyer can point out the mack truck weaknesses in the case. Since Rush would be elegible for drug court and the result would be a dismissal, why would any prosecutor want to file any case. They will look like idiots to their leftist/hate Rush friends.


The money laundering hoax is just that a hoax. It was settled two years ago and they can't tie the two together. Especially with how people improve their homes in the palm beach area. Cash on hand is SOP. Additionally, it is not laundering since no illegal source exists. It makes no legal sense for that charge to be brought.

Which leads me to firmly believe that the DNC and Clintonistas seek only to smear Rush, not charge him. The speculation and charges are there to diminish him.

Be on the lookout for more yellow journalism articles.
161 posted on 11/25/2003 8:29:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Those who seem to call him a hypocrite are more in tune with a DNC / Sid Blumthal talking points than reality. "

Not being a member of the VLHC, I must state that you must be smoking something yourself, apparently.

Rush is a wordsmith. He says what he wants people to hear. He doesn't want people to think ill of him. Duh!

He says one thing, while doing another. That is a pretty good definition of hypocracy.

To forgive him is fine, and I for one, hold no bad feelings, AGAINST THE MAN, just his past prejudicial, inflammatory statements. As previously stated, I have smoked hemp. He lumps me into a category which includes leftist radicals (as you seem to imply ), for whatever reason. I am a mature, intelligent, tax paying citizen. I have voted mainly Republican for the last 30 years. I smoked hemp. I copuld have propbably gotten off if I had been caught, because I can afford a good attorney.

Since he admits addiction, though, he is considered in a different light. He is brave because he admits it, and went to rehab, to find his "inner child" or whatever... AFTER HE GOT CAUGHT.
Not everyone, on this site,thinks he is ready for sainthood. The goal of my posts is to reveal his (and his choir's) defiance of the real truth, and his obvious unwillingness to accept the possible punishment, that most other offenders would receive.

I, too, think he sould hire the best lawyer he can, if he were in trouble. That isn't wrong, but IMO it IS wrong to blindly defend him, as if he were lily white!
162 posted on 11/25/2003 8:32:22 AM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt! and certainly not the Dims or Redims!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Especially with how people improve their homes in the palm beach area. Cash on hand is SOP."

In other words, they keep cash around to pay workers, and do not bother to report it to the IRS? Isn't that an illegal form of money-laundering? Or is it just OK, since everybody does it?

Your logic escapes me, in this instance. It seems to fly in the face of your posit, that he did NOT launder money.
163 posted on 11/25/2003 8:37:10 AM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt! and certainly not the Dims or Redims!)
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To: bullseye1911
That was a pretty clueless reply (that one is a hypocrite for wanting kids not to do what you did that you now realize is foolish)

It would be hyprocritical if you were still doing stuff while lecturing against it.

But what the heck--I don't think we OWE it to kids to tell them the details of our past mistakes, PLUS they don't want to hear it.

Anymore than they want to hear details of our present sex life (if, of course, it exists)
164 posted on 11/25/2003 8:40:16 AM PST by altura
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To: pageonetoo
Having dealt with people with additictions. Rush is a classic example of where he redily admits it to himself. His only "got caught" issue was being forced to admit it to others.

Rush is not the first person who was able to deal with the issue long before hitting rock bottom. However like other business people, he tried the quick fixes so he wousl not lose work time. It does not work that way. His public admission allowed him something that his problem needed time. Same as any other person.

This article and others like it have to be taken as slader points. Rush means ratings for the main media outlets. I bet every time they mention rush they get a ratings spike. It is not the first seminar caller to slip through. It is just another article which trys to smear money laundering by leaving out details about the banks responsibiltiy and banks own fines.

If one is going to be condemned then let it be for what is, not why some DNC / Sid Blumenthal talking point says it is. (big brother loves you)
165 posted on 11/25/2003 8:42:30 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
(big brother loves you)


thanks, bro! I love you, too!
166 posted on 11/25/2003 8:44:50 AM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt! and certainly not the Dims or Redims!)
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To: pageonetoo
Of course Rush is a hypocrite, as are we all.

His desire to be a whited sepulcher is unfathomable, however.

IMO, he is only building up future personal grief by his ego-defense.

I had hoped he might have a 'road to Damascus' epiphany regarding the drug question, but it was not to be, alas!
167 posted on 11/25/2003 8:45:08 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Lazamataz
Arator is simply an honest conservative - a rare breed nowadays. He realizes that anyone who stands on a podium tongue kissing Ted Kennedy over the latest government takeover of education is no friend of conservatives. We might as well have someone honest about their tendncies.
168 posted on 11/25/2003 8:50:06 AM PST by the ghost of things future
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To: mhking
LOL. But a lot of people here want to kill Mitch Williams.
169 posted on 11/25/2003 8:50:40 AM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: headsonpikes
If he sticks with his program they are pretty successful. They will have to find some effective method of dealing with his back pain.
170 posted on 11/25/2003 8:50:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Ben Chad
I am sure there are a lot of parents out there who do not want their kids doing some of the stupid things they did as kids. Does that make them hypocrites?

Yes - and I'm guilty

No, it means they've grown up. When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things.

171 posted on 11/25/2003 8:57:17 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: the ghost of things future
Arator is simply an honest conservative

Anyone who actively supports Howard Dean is no conservative, honest or otherwise.

a rare breed nowadays.

I'll agree that Arator is a rare breed.

172 posted on 11/25/2003 8:57:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (I like my women as I like my coffee: Cold and bitter.)
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To: Richard Kimball
When I became a man, I put away childish things.

So did I.

Well, except for Snookums, my blankey, and Thumper, my Teddy Bear. THOSE are still around.

173 posted on 11/25/2003 9:00:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (I like my women as I like my coffee: Cold and bitter.)
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To: Lazamataz
"When I became a man, I put away childish things."

I didn't think men EVER grew up! I love my blankey, too!
174 posted on 11/25/2003 9:04:06 AM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt! and certainly not the Dims or Redims!)
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To: the ghost of things future
Arator's a loon who thinks that 9/11 was a government operation.
175 posted on 11/25/2003 9:05:22 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: kattracks
My personal feelings about Rush are evolving. Initially I was sympathetic to him from the perspective of empathizing with his horrible struggle against his powerful addiction. But then I began to understand the deeper and long-term implications of his dilema.

Rush has meaning to all of us on a much greater level than that of just a personal acquaintenence. We have granted Rush a priviledged and powerful position in our lives and in our political discourse. "I am nothing without you my audience," Rush says. Well it is true, but I don't know if he really believes it.

Each of us has invested a great deal of our own credibility in the credibility of Rush. Is there any of us who has not had to answer to friends and family who don't like Rush, and are enjoying his trials? The long held hope of liberals to undermine Rush and his listeners was handed a powerful victory by none other than "Ole Rushbo."

No matter how correct the message...it will always be filtered through the image and credibility of the messenger. Rush has squandered and diluted his effectivness as a messenger of important cultural and political issues. It is denial to suggest otherwise. Would you also want to argue that Michael Jackson is destined to be a revered pop cultural icon in light of his "addiction." Will his "image" and therefor his message not undergo a radical evolution? Why should or would it be any different for Rush?

I have been one of Rushs' most loyal listeners for years. But I now listen to him with a different attitude. I don't Trust him. I filter and contrast everything he says through the reality that he has broken faith. I used to believe that he was fully dedicated to Family, God, Country, and his audience. I now know that he served another master. He was not being honest and he certainly wasn't focused on his responsibilities.

It is not a stretch to compare Rushs' addiction to pills and lack of focus on his duties to that of Clinton. The thing that angered me most about Clinton was knowing that his selfish-pigish personal addiction (to sex) would trump his responsibility to uphold the standard of Commander and Chief. Rush is no different than Clinton in that regard...he let his personal self centered gratification trump all that he professed to stand for...God, Family, Country, Career. All his virtuous pontificating was no more than a necessary inconvenience, while he secretly schemed and dreamed about what was really important to him...swallowing more pills.

Folks, addicts use and abuse people. There is no room in an addicts life for true balance. All energy is expended in the quest for that which feeds the addiction. The sincere words of an addict ring hollow because behind them lay only thoughts about their true love...feeding the demon.

"Rushbo", "Jacko", and "Bubba" have more in common than they would like to believe. While they will continue to commamnd the allegiance of their most loyal followers...they will court ridicule if they don't modify their message to fit the reality of their lifestyle.

"Bubba Clinton"..."Family values...that's what I'm all about"

"Jacko"..."We must protect and care for all the children of the world"

"RushBo"..."Self reliance and rugged individualism...that's what made America great...Don't look to others...pull yourself up by your bootstraps."

None of these guys should have the liberty to portray themselves as anything other than what they are...deeply flawed and dishonest individuals appealing to the masses through some unique talent or position, while being primarily focused on and enslaved by their own personal demons.

In my opinion the only thing Rush has been truly honest about was when he would say...."Doing my job with half my brain tied behind my back.
176 posted on 11/25/2003 9:16:10 AM PST by awgie2
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To: Richard Kimball
No, it means they've grown up. When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things.

Ahhh, the wise words of Paul and so apropos here.

177 posted on 11/25/2003 9:21:19 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: pageonetoo
I didn't think men EVER grew up!

Especially true of liberals.

178 posted on 11/25/2003 9:24:21 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: awgie2
Rush is not a hypocrite. He believes and knows that what he did was wrong. When people mess up and choose to do wrong by mistake, it does not change either the fact that wrongdoing is wrong or that they think that their wrongdoing is right.

Coming clean about doing wrong is very hard to do for all of us.

179 posted on 11/25/2003 9:29:37 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: altura
I believe you attribute a "clueless" comment to me incorrectly. Go back and read the thread. Regards.
180 posted on 11/25/2003 9:43:23 AM PST by bullseye1911
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