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To: wideminded
... the Zapruder film shows the bullet moving Connally's suit lapel.

I will believe that the 'Magic Bullet' did as described, once Posner sits in a chair and gets hit in his right back and wrist, and then turns around to see where the shot came from.

I have no doubt that Oswald was a shooter; I am not convinced of the scenario of the Warren Commission.

236 posted on 11/26/2003 11:04:34 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: brityank
The individual stills from the Zabruder film are amazing (be your own detective!). I agree that Connally was shot after Kennedy was shot - and will surmise that CONNALLY was shot from the grassy knoll.

Looking at the Zabruder clips, I say Kennedy is shot on clip #226. (Just after he appears from behind the sign). The camera goes fuzzy on #227 when Z reacts to the noise of the shot. Connally's hat goes up from his lap in #230 - either reacting to the shot, noise from Kennedy - or perhaps the bullet through Kennedy's neck hitting him, but not severe enough for him to really know what had happened to him - or for him to woory about (the thigh wound?).

From #230 to #271 Connally is turning to look at Kennedy. At #261 he is talking (part of the Oh no, no, no that his wife said "that he said as he was turning to look at the President") Also at #261, Jackie is looking at Connally - she may still not realize what is going on, and is looking at the person talking, as we are apt to do. (Or, that's just how her body is, and she still doesn't know that it was a shot yet.)

ANYWAY - before and after frame #271 Connally's hat (and hand and wrist) are in FRONT of his CHEST as he is turning to face the President. After about #271 Connally is out of the picture. The picture is fuzzy again around frame #291 - when Zabruder reacts to the shot from the grassy knoll that hits Connally in the wrist and then straight into his chest. The bullet tumbles upon hitting his wrist bone - hence the elongated hole as the bullet EXITS Connally's back. (Or - he could have been shot from the driver's side of the car - but then how do you get the bullet to tumble into his back, and is their any shooting position back there?)

Connally doesn't come back into view until later (forget what frame) and is on the way down to being pulled into Mrs. Connally's lap.

So- two bullets into Kennedy (neck and Head), one into the curb, and a fourth from the grassy knoll into Connally. And looking at the clips, although not an expert at body movements after being hit by a bullet, I would say that the blood and tissue sprays forward into the car. And yes, the head does move back after the initial blow. After his brains are blown forward, either the mass of the brains exiting his head bushes the head back, or the head, now without muscle control to hold it upright, stays STATIONARY as the body moves forward with the moving car. (By the way, prior to seeing this clip by clip of the film it always looked to me like the shot was from the front!)

However - in looking at the little video imbedded in this thread, it looks like at the head shot, Kennedy moves back violently at the same time that Connally moves forward violently. Jackie is pretty much the same position, and I think Mrs. Connally is too (although she's somewhat obscured). So perhaps Connally was hit with the head-shot bullet as well. But would a bullet that just passed through Kennedy's head have enough force to drive Connally forward (while driving Kennedy backwards?) Could an exploding bullet to Kennedy's head have this effect? (One TV show had a guy talking about the French assassin using an exploding bullet).

I don't recall all of Connally's wounds: back-chest, wrist and thigh? The point is - with numerous wounds - perhaps there were numerous hits (2 or 3) to Connally.


There's my 2 cents! (And I've never heard of the idea that Connally was the one shot from the grassy knoll - what am I missing?)
237 posted on 11/26/2003 11:39:08 AM PST by geopyg (Democracy, whiskey, sexy)
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