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Always so appropriate. Were these guys divinely guided or what?
1 posted on 11/24/2003 7:24:25 PM PST by JSteff
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Did the Founders forget that part when they set up the rules for the Senate or were the rules changed?
2 posted on 11/24/2003 7:29:02 PM PST by Consort
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To: JSteff
"Were these guys divinely guided or what?"

If he were divinely guided it would have been to practice his marksmanship.
3 posted on 11/24/2003 7:32:43 PM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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...It has been said that more than a majority ought to have been required for a quorum; and in particular cases, if not in all, more than a majority of a quorum for a decision. That some advantages might have resulted from such a precaution, cannot be denied. It might have been an additional shield to some particular interests, and another obstacle generally to hasty and partial measures. But these considerations are outweighed by the inconveniences in the opposite scale. In all cases where justice or the general good might require new laws to be passed, or active measures to be pursued, the fundamental principle of free government would be reversed. It would be no longer the majority that would rule: the power would be transferred to the minority. Were the defensive privilege limited to particular cases, an interested minority might take advantage of it to screen themselves from equitable sacrifices to the general weal, or, in particular emergencies, to extort unreasonable indulgences. ..

F58, PUBLIUS (PUBLIUS wrote 22, too, who's that Hamilton dude?)

4 posted on 11/24/2003 7:38:40 PM PST by SJackson
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To: JSteff
I am always leery of quote with multitple ellipses. Here is the original quote, which spans two sentences, in its context.
The necessity of unanimity in public bodies, or of something approaching towards it, has been founded upon a supposition that it would contribute to security. But its real operation is to embarrass the administration, to destroy the energy of government, and to substitute the pleasure, caprice or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent or corrupt junto, to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority. In those emergencies of a nation, in which the goodness or badness, the weakness or strength of its government, is of the greatest importance, there is commonly a necessity for action. The public business must in some way or other go forward. If a pertinacious minority can controul the opinion of a majority respecting the best mode of conducting it; the majority in order that something may be done, must conform to the views of the minority; and thus the sense of the smaller number will over-rule that of the greater, and give a tone to the national proceedings. Hence tedious delays--continual negotiation and intrigue--contemptible compromises of the public good. And yet in such a system, it is even happy when such compromises can take place: For upon some occasions, things will not admit of accommodation; and then the measures of government must be injuriously suspended or fatally defeated. It is often, by the impracticability of obtaining the concurrence of the necessary number of votes, kept in a state of inaction. Its situation must always savour of weakness--sometimes border upon anarchy.

5 posted on 11/24/2003 7:48:48 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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for later
7 posted on 11/24/2003 8:46:37 PM PST by luckydevi
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