[mamelukesabre]

I think I’ve posted this before on blams threads.

I have a vague memory of reading something about the first russians to set foot on alaska. They told of vicious red haired barbarians that attacked them with catapults. There was no reasoning with them. So every last one was killed by the russians. Even the women and children.

I can’t remember wehre I read this. I can’t find anything anywhere about red haired primitives in alaska. Has anyone ever heard of this or read anything like it?

[blam]

" Has anyone ever heard of this or read anything like it?

Sorry, no.

[muawiyah]

The first "known" Russians in the Aleutians discovered that the folks there were pretty much like the same folks in Siberia ~ a mixed bag.

Bering had folks along with him who could talk to them.

Later on during the development of the Russian colony in California, a good number of Aleuts and Indians were taken down to California by the Russians. They worked at tanning furs, and also raised vegetables to ship up to the Russian fur hunters in Alaska.

The Russians, in turn, handed the furs over to John Finley(Findley), his brother, and a couple of other fellows from Seymour, Indiana. They would take them down the coast to Spanish fur traders at the San Luis Rey Mission in what is now Vista, CA.

The Spanish traders would ship them across the Pacific as tradegoods for the China trade, or down the coast to settlements in South America.

When the Russian colony was sold off to Sutter most of the Indians and Aleuts moved to Russia with the Russian officers, some of the Russian workforce stayed with Sutter, and some of the Russian fur trapper/traders went East, presumably to Seymour, Indiana, with Finley and the others. You can find Russian Orthodox cast iron crosses over graves of unknown persons in early graveyards around Seymour.

Yup, white folk settling America from the West Coast to Mid-America ~ BEFORE the Civil War.