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1 posted on 11/20/2003 5:14:54 PM PST by hope
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"I hope this will never happen...."

"I don't think they'd be able to...."

"They'd just go after the muslims..."

"It'd just be temporary..."

"It'd be necessary in an emergency...."

"After it was done, the Constitution would be reinstated...."

What Garbage. I hope when reality hits, you all won't turn into a bunch of quislings. (meaning, of course, only those who are not already quislings)

374 posted on 11/26/2003 11:49:21 AM PST by IMHO
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Some of the tin-horn dictators of the world would do well to ask themselves what this country's response will be if a major event ever occurs in this country.

We don't have to scrap the Constitution. There is language in the Constitution that allows our leaders to do what is necessary in extreme circumstances.

If certain dictators cannot control the extremists within their country and we are forced to act, there will be a terrible price to pay in human blood in those countries.

We, as a nation, will do what we must to survive. I am sure it would shock the rest of the world to find out what we are capable of if and when some idiots unleash forces that only this nation is capable of containing in this world.

It would be a black day for humanity but this nation would prevail and still lead the world.

381 posted on 11/28/2003 4:52:23 PM PST by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1030336/posts

( "Ignore GB; he's just a rude nut case" )
396 posted on 11/28/2003 5:49:28 PM PST by GatekeeperBookman ("The War does indeed have many facets; http://aztlan.net/ Look at your enemy." Listen to Tancredo)
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Its a long read, but a relevant Ping! based on our current conversation on this issue, Dueler.

I guess I can understand the threat to Constitutional Protections. Didn't WW2 involve a mild state of martial law through its entirety?. What choice is there really? The danger lies in our current state of disharmony. In the face of disaster, will this nation be patient and faithful when it comes to the rigid requirements of martial authority needed to restore civil order and public safety. In the novel, The Postman, Brin outlines how America's collapse occurred not because of any one factor. But it was a combination of relatively small events that chipped away at the civil structure of a nation whose values and convictions were already stretched too thin by ideological division.

OBL is one smart cat. He or his planners new exactly the right attack needed and where on the towers that would bring them down. It shows a level of understanding of that structure's engineering and it's weaknesses that far exceed our expectations. I also believe that OBL believes himself to be a prophet. He acts and speaks in poetics that will be recorded in perpetuity. WTC was a metaphor. He knows exactly what is needed to destroy this nation from within. The Left has played right into his hands destroying any unity that we had and that we desperately need at this time.

That WMD will be a plane driven into the guts of America... spilling superheated fuel that will liquefy our exposed integrity. We will collapse. The enemy will rush in and take our heads.

...Unless something changes or we pull another 'Midway' out of our hat. Perhaps Iraq IS our Midway.

So is this about religion? I seriously doubt it... at least as far as the 'instigators' are concerned. OBL is simply one instigator and his motives are not likely what they appear to be. I'd suggest that a handful of directors have an intent that they have been using to pervert the motives of a hundred thousand puppets both here in America and in the Middle and Far East. World Leftist are unfortunately, playing into this model quite effectively for our enemies and much to this nation's detriment.

The fundamental question would be this: Is the Left capable of tossing away their animosity and opposition in the face of an emminent threat? Our enemies have been brilliant so far in not providing that motive. Are they playing us like a fiddle? Again who are they? And are they the same ‘they’ that are directing ‘our’ puppets here... directing their Islamic puppets and our Anti puppets according to ancient tenants of warfare… ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend.’? America is the enemy of the instigators. George Bush and American's(those with common sense) are the ginned-up threat to both sets of mindless puppets.

As for the 'Instigators?' Who would they be? My guess is idealistic Communists and ex-Soviets. The world Mafia of thugs and tyrants that is personified by the U.N. and Kofi Annon... the biggest beneficiaries of world strife.

Like many others at this thread, in light of these observations, I am not certain that we can ride out that sort of shock right now. Some may recognize the beginnings of a reversal of past optimism on my part. I generally agree with you, however, that we are certainly capable of the strength needed to perservere in this struggle. But, I also recognize that our perserverance depends on unity and consistency... both virtues in very short supply at the moment throughout Western Civilization.

Again, I suggest that the Visigoths have appeared over the last hill. The gates of Rome are open. Will we take up arms and fight as one... or perish as half of us tuck tail and run.

Civilization lives or dies with us here and now.


408 posted on 12/03/2003 1:14:04 PM PST by Mr.Atos
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Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that “the worst thing that could happen” is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”

Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Did you see this? What do you think?

I think the liberal idiots would probably be ready to surrender their freedom for perceived security. After all, that is the thinking behind gun control.

409 posted on 12/07/2003 12:11:13 AM PST by Pontiac
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We are not prepared for such a WMD attack. We are doing nothing to prepare for such an attack. And it is therefore why this forcast after a WMD attack is inevitable.
410 posted on 12/07/2003 12:53:36 AM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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