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To: AmericaUnited
Fine. State you real name, address and phone number, and declare Michael Schiavo and his attorney murderers and liars. I'll do the duty of sending it to Schiavo and his attorney just so you can get your test case started. Put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is, don't hide and scurry inside the walls of Free Republic like a bunch of cockroaches.
19 posted on 11/19/2003 3:04:08 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Fine. State you real name, address and phone number, and declare Michael Schiavo and his attorney murderers and liars. I'll do the duty of sending it to Schiavo and his attorney just so you can get your test case started. Put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is, don't hide and scurry inside the walls of Free Republic like a bunch of cockroaches.

There are many reasons why people on the Internet generally do not post their names, addresses, and phone numbers. Among other things, there are always oddballs who think that such a posting constitutes an invitation to call at 3:00am. But as noted, it would not be hard for Felos et al. to sobpoena JimRob if there were anything actionable. On the other hand, since that would give the defendant of such a lawsuit basis to demand access to a lot of information Felos et al. are keeping secret, that seems unlikely.

BTW, Mr. Schindler has already openly made a public allegation against Mr. Schiavo. Why hasn't Mr. Schiavo acted against that one?

21 posted on 11/19/2003 3:27:24 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: ArneFufkin
Arne, stop hiding behind your lawsuit blather.
23 posted on 11/19/2003 3:54:49 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ArneFufkin
For God's sake, Michael Schiavo went on Larry King Live and slandered the Schindler's. Maybe Mr. Schindler should sue Michael Schiavo for saying "he's in it for the money" and crap like that.

You're barking up the wrong tree here, pal. We're into speaking our minds and we're free to do it here. This is still a free country last I checked.

Go, Terri! LIVE ON . . .
27 posted on 11/19/2003 4:01:18 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: ArneFufkin
I read your comments in others threads. You are a PRO-DEATH troll. I have zero respect for people like you and even an intense dislike.

Where's my can of Troll-Be-Gone?
28 posted on 11/19/2003 4:03:30 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ArneFufkin
Put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is, don't hide and scurry inside the walls of Free Republic like a bunch of cockroaches.

Oh, for pete's sake! This empty boogey man threat was over and done with around Halloween time. After over 1,000 posts, JimRob relegated it to the Smokey Backroom where such garbage belongs. If you really want to continue a debate that's already been debunked and layed to rest, maybe you could talk to yourself over there. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1007384/posts.

Oh, and let me just add this: Michael Shiavo is an attempted murderer and his attorney, George Felos, is complicit in attempted murder.

33 posted on 11/19/2003 4:40:55 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: ArneFufkin
Here is some relevant information, which supports the assertion that Michael Schiavo is trying to kill his wife.

Former caregivers file affidavits supporting allegations.

Three medical professionals who had cared for Terri in the past filed affidavits accompanying the lawsuit, disputing Michael Schiavo's claims that his wife was in a "Persistent Vegetative State," which is the requirement under Florida law for a feeding tube to be removed. The medical experts also chronicled a long history of alleged denial of care and therapy by Schiavo.

Carolyn Johnson, a Certified Nursing Assistant (CNA), cared for Terri in a nursing home in the early 1990s. She described her shock at being ordered not to provide the same care for Terri as a patient in the same room with a similar brain injury was receiving.

"I learned, as part of my training, that there was a family dispute and that the husband, as guardian, wanted no rehabilitation for Terri," Johnson explained. "Once, I wanted to put a cloth in Terri's hand to keep her hand from closing in on itself, but I was not permitted to do this, as Michael Schiavo considered that to be a form of rehabilitation."

Another CNA, Heidi Law, cared for Terri at a convalescent center in the mid and late 1990s. Law described similar orders she received not to encourage Mrs. Schiavo's recovery.

"I know that Terri did not receive routine physical therapy or any other kind of therapy. I was personally aware of orders for rehabilitation that were not being carried out," Law alleged in her affidavit. "Even though they were ordered, Michael [Schiavo] would stop them. Michael [Schiavo] ordered that Terri receive no rehabilitation or range of motion therapy."

Law also alleged that her attempts to document Terri's potential for improvement were thwarted.

"I made extensive notes and listed all of Terri's behaviors, but there was never any apparent follow-up consistent with her responsiveness," Law said. "There were trash cans at the nurses stations that we were supposed to empty each shift, and I often saw the notes in them."

Law directly disputes Michael Schiavo's claim that Terri is in a Persistent Vegetative State, as well. In her affidavit, she detailed how she routinely provided Terri with a wet washcloth filled with ice chips to keep her mouth moistened and, on at least three occasions, fed Terri flavored gelatin.

"I personally saw her swallow the ice water and never saw her gag. [Another CAN] and I frequently put orange juice or apple juice in her washcloth to give her something nice to taste, which made her happy," Law recalled. "On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jell-O, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely."

Nurse recalls Schiavo asking, 'When is that bitch gonna die?'

Carla Sauer Iyer was a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) at the same convalescent center in the mid 1990s, and also cared for Terri. She described Mr. Schiavo as being "focused on Terri's death.

"Michael [Schiavo] would say, 'When is she going to die? Has she died yet?' and 'When is that bitch going to die?'" Iyer charged. "Other statements which I recall him making include, 'Can't anything be done to accelerate her death, won't she ever die?' When she wouldn't die, Michael [Schiavo] would be furious."

Conversely, Iyer said that when she would have to call Schiavo to inform him of a downturn in Terri's condition, Schiavo would be elated. Here is some relevant information, which support the contention that Michael Schiavo is trying to kill his wife.

"Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die," Iyer recalled. "He would blurt out, 'I'm going to be rich,' and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat and going to Europe, among other things."

Iyer also described incidents of Terri Schiavo talking, moving voluntarily and responding to external stimuli, descriptions that Iyer said were removed from Mrs. Schiavo's medical records. Both Law and Iyer reported Terri verbally communicating, also contradicting Michael Schiavo's claim that his wife was in a Persistent Vegetative State. "During the time I cared for Terri, she formed words. I have heard her say 'mommy' from time to time, and 'momma,'" Law recalled. "She also said 'help me' a number of times."

Iyer described Terri as "alert and oriented," and said Michael Schiavo "systematically distorted" Terri's medical condition.

"Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as 'mommy' and 'help me,'" Iyer recalled. "'Help me' was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times."

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56 posted on 11/19/2003 8:57:29 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (I love the smell of winning, the taste of victory, and the joy of each glorious triumph)
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To: ArneFufkin; AmericaUnited
ARNEFUFKIN WROTE TO AMERICAUNITED: "State you real name, address and phone number, and declare Michael Schiavo and his attorney murderers and liars. I'll do the duty of sending it to Schiavo and his attorney just so you can get your test case started."

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Having Michael sue ANY or ALL of us for libel (written) or slander (spoken) would be FANTASTIC!!!!! First off, "LOVING" Hitleresque-HINO Michael is now a "public figure," requiring him to prove malice for him to even have a chance to win a libel or slander suit.

Plus, to PROVE whether ANY or ALL of us slandered or libeled "LOVING" Hitleresque-HINO Michael, it would FORCE him to release ALL of the SAME MEDICAL RECORDS which we want brought into evidence in the courts!!!

Indeed, I called Judge Greer's office today and made a comment about "LOVING" Hitleresque-HINO Michael being a "probable attempted murderer." Greer's office claimed that the conversation was being taped and then threatened that "LOVING" Hitleresque-HINO Michael could sue me for slander for calling him a murderer. I repeated that I called him a "probable attempted murderer," not a murderer. And then I said "Oh, but PLEASE have Michael sue me for slander...PLEASE have him sue me for slander...PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE!!!"

The idiot sounded shocked anyone would say "bring it on!" And of course, he would have to sue in EACH of our counties around the country.

75 posted on 11/21/2003 11:36:50 PM PST by Concerned
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