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To: Phaedrus
"Quoting myself: "Only a fool or an intellectual could be an atheist". Human arrogance is boundless. "

Right… And atheist is simply someone who disbelieves what you claim to be true without proof. So you insult him publicly and claim he’s the “arrogant" one. Nice…

8 posted on 11/17/2003 7:00:34 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
"Right… And atheist is simply someone who disbelieves what you claim to be true without proof. So you insult him publicly and claim he’s the “arrogant" one. Nice…"

As a Christian I agree that much of the article is flawed on logic. However I do think the conclusion has some merit. That most atheists do not live as though life is the accident that they claim it to be. However some do indeed live that way.

"The atheist is irrational because he has no other choice – because the rational consequences of his non-belief are simply too terrible to bear."

I do think the Atheist is irrational, but not because he disbelieves what I claim to be true without proof. But I believe that God provides the Atheist with ample proof and is rejected by the Atheist. But I take it on faith that this occurs because 1) God has provided me sufficient proof and 2) I know God well enough to believe that He is serious when He says he desires nobody to perish.

God doesn't manifest His presence in such a way that His existence is obvious and incontrovertible to everyone. Doing so might leave you with little choice but to worship Him. Certainly it would be hard to argue that you chose to love God or obey Him when His alpowerful Holy presence is constantly around. But that does not mean that He doesn't provide ample proof on an individual basis.

14 posted on 11/17/2003 7:32:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: elfman2
...what you claim to be true without proof.

The proof is all around you -- you are immersed in it. Careful thought will get you there. Faith, as such, is not required but it can be helpful, if only because it is an indicator of due modesty.

23 posted on 11/17/2003 8:56:23 AM PST by Phaedrus
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To: elfman2
And atheist is simply someone who disbelieves what you claim to be true without proof. So you insult him publicly and claim he’s the “arrogant" one. Nice…

The atheist insistance that God does not exist is an insanely arrogant claim.

132 posted on 11/17/2003 9:12:19 PM PST by Jorge
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