To: justshutupandtakeit
Here's an unvague accusation: You don't know jack diddly squat about the intention of the founding fathers with regards to the 2nd amdnement. Thomas jefferson himself fully expected armed rebellion against the US government. Here's a picture of it
in his own hand and here's an excerpt from
the transcription:
yet where does this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always, well informed. the past which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
I don't know why people who know nothing about the intentions and opinions of the founding fathers claim to be able to speak for the meaning of the bill of rights. If you continue to doubt, there's volumes of information out there if you choose to educate yourself instead of remaining ingorant. BTW, you can also look at one of the offical seals of the united states, proposed by both Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin:
In case you can't read the writing on the seal, it says "Rebellion To Tyrants Is Obedience To God".
703 posted on
01/30/2004 1:17:58 PM PST by
flashbunny
(A corrupt society has many laws.)
To: flashbunny
Jefferson's views in that regard are a disgrace and show why he was not a good president (even if he did blunder into the Louisiana Purchase.) He was a horrible military leader and left the nation's military in terrible shape.
God forbid we should go 20 yrs without a rebellion based in ignorance? Oh, yeah that is brilliant, just brilliant.
Other than tyrannical Slavers there were no "tyrants" in America after our independence one has to be a moron to think so. Jefferson wasn't even in this country when the Shay's rebellion occurred.
Nice seals but, of course, utterly irrelevent to any discussion I have been involved in.
708 posted on
02/02/2004 12:58:05 PM PST by
justshutupandtakeit
(America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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