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To: justshutupandtakeit
Those were NEVER with him at the beginning anyway they were too busy supporting fringe Losers and dumass third parties.

Then how come I saw a ton of UAW jackets at the NRA rallies. Exit polls had 61% of union members going for Gore. Gunowning union members had over 50% voting for BUSH. I was a Keyes voter at the beginning, but I did vote for Bush at the end, and it was because of Gore on guns.

Bush was the most conservative governor in the nation prior to the election

I highly doubt that. John Engler was to the right of Bush, especially in his first two terms.

Like Illinois Michigan is NOT a conservative state. At best they are moderate states.

Illinois is different since they don't have a strong Dutch Protestant community(West Michigan), yoopers(and northern lower Michigan - Populists), and Chicago has more people than Detroit. The suburbs here are generally blue collar as well outside of Oakland County.

No moderates have won here statewide since 1978. Unless you count GHWB who ran as a conservative and Spence Abraham who ran as a conservative. A moderate COULD win here if he was an economic populist and a SOCIAL conservative.

If Bush signs that ban, Macomb, St Clair, the UP, North Michigan, Shiawasse, Eaton, and Monroe are all going rat, and he'll lose about 4-5% in my county. Count on it.

321 posted on 11/14/2003 11:26:15 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock N Roll" - Bob Seger)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I was not speaking of Union members but people here on this forum.

Engler was not more conservative than Bush as a governor nor did Engler have to deal with a RAT legislature.

Michigan's continual election of Liberal Senators illustrates it is moderate at best.

Those areas you reference are not as stupid as that.
337 posted on 11/14/2003 1:37:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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