Posted on 11/09/2003 2:25:14 PM PST by kattracks
When they get enough power and the opportunity arises, if it arises politically, they will turn on faithful Christians. Already there is hatred building for Christians who are being portrayed as being backward and bigoted.
I don't think there was such a high incidence of homosexuality and perversion in the past as there seems to be now, although I can't figure out why or if it is true.
Is it possible that genetic breakdown is the culprit, along with blurring of sexual roles in the modern world?
This may be really off-the-wall, but is it possible that unconfessed sins of sexual perversion by ancestors can make its way into the gene pool? It sounds a little crazy, but cells carry memory to some extent.
It doesn't seem that other cultures have such a high incidence of homosexuality as the decadent west.
Is that what he tells his kids? "I left your mom and am boinking another man to teach you about God's love." Charming.
"How dare we in this country spend $87 billion on war when 44 million people have no health insurance?" he said in his sermon. "It's up to the church to lead on some of these moral issues."
With a straight face, I'll bet. No pun intended.
Maybe Hungary has the answer. I sure don't.
I can't advocate any kind of violence against them, nor do I advocate repressive measures to the point of keeping them from earning a living, but the behavior wasn't tolerated and was probably punished.
I never used to pay much attention to it because it only became so open after the 60's. Now it makes me angry that they have become so blatant and self-justifying and in-your-face about it.
They have a significant presence on the internet, as well as heterosexual supporters.
I found this just posted in alt.religion.christian.episcopal:
"The good news is, there's no news. Bishop Robinson came to All Saints' in Peterborough today and there were no news cameras, no protestors, no complaints, and no inappropriate behavior on anyone's part. He spent part of yesterday with the people being confirmed and celebrated at all services today (8:00 Rite I, 9:00 informal family service, 11:00 Rite II). Then he had a working lunch with the Vestry.
"At 10:00 he had an open discussion with the parish to field questions. We spent most of the time talking about the future and what plans he has for the diocese. We talked a little about reaching out to those who are unhappy, but his focus is really on the 50% of the state that has no chuch affiliation at all.
"Bon mot of the day: He was discussing promoting the ministries of laity in the parish and in passing said, "If you believe, as I do, that everyone's going to Heaven--well, just look around you, at all the faces--it's not going to be any better than this."
"And his partner was present and Gene introduced him. I wasn't sure how people would feel about this, but I had the pleasure of seeing someone I would have said was the most inflexible, tradition-minded people in the parish walk up to him and shake his hand."
If you go google archives, you can use the keywords and search for the poster. It is too fresh to be in the archives tonight, so wait until tomorrow sometime.
Also, yahoo groups has an apostasy group for Episcopalians who are disenchanted with the turn of events which has a lot of good info. I'm not of that denomination, but I'm following it anyway because we are all affected by it one way or another whether we like it or not. The conservatives are on the losing side of this battle.
BTW, maybe I ought not to be talking to you with a screen name like that :-). But others may see this and find it of interest.
PETERBOROUGH, N.H. (AP) The Rev. V. Gene Robinson began his ministry as the Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop on Sunday by saying he wants to bring the message of God's love to "those on the margins."He also said the church should speak out on issues of social justice, including the lack of access to health care for many Americans.
"How dare we in this country spend $87 billion on war when 44 million people have no health insurance?" he said in his sermon. "It's up to the church to lead on some of these moral issues."
I am speechless ...
Not satisfied with just demonstrating his ignorance of The Bible, "Gene Gene The Prancing Machine" goes the extra yard to show that he knows very little about history, as well.
And how far will a church founded on blatant hypocrisy go, Bishop BJ?
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