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I didn't bait them. I posted an interesting article. Everyone knows I adore Bush and Lincoln, so this should come as no surprise.

Well, at least we can agree about Bush.

Well I too adore W aside from a handful of policy disagreements..FWIW. I think what I like about W is that he is fairly transparent in a good way. He is what he looks and acts like....someone who means well and is about as honest as any politician can afford to be but who will fight if pressed. He also recognizes the moral clarity of using violence to thwart a serious threat to our nation. That is so important in this age of relativism. We are very lucky to have him at this juncture warts and all.....it's providence to me...if I may be so bold as to surmise what God is thinking..lol.

Lincoln, I am grateful for the terms he would have purportedly offered my ancestors had he lived. I regard him somewhere between saint and villian....which is admittedly quite a gulf.

Like I said before, I really only view Washington as somehow above it all and that I realize is my perception because I'm sure someone will point out his flaws soon enough to me.

As for this neoconfederate stuff. I delve into Southern threads on occasion and I have yet to see anyone Southern enthusiast calling for a new secession seriously.

We ALL talk about the red zone-blue zone conflict but that is hardly simply Southern and does not entail the probability of seccession but rather a multi faceted true civil war or upheaval.