[billbears]

You know the part that says people normally shouldn't try to throw off their governments and form new ones because usually what they wind up with is worse than what they started out with

Normally yes, but when you are being fiscally raped as the Southern states were, what would you suggest they would have done? Let it go on? They did the same thing their brave ancestors did. Leave the offensive party behind. Unfortunately, bankers and manufacturer barons couldn't just allow the Southern states to leave, not to mention the national government. Where would they get their money for their unconstitutional plans from?

[hirn_man]

How about they address those issues through the replublican(government not political party)way?

You know repeal the laws they thought were so darn harsh.
Of course that would of meant that their ideas would have had to of been able to sway a majority of the legislative branch and get a president to sign it.

And failing that they could have sought redress from the courts.

The founders knew when they told King George to get lost that it meant war. I suspect that your confederate anscestors did too.

Your confederate anscestors had representation. Your founder anscestors didn't. I would say that that is a rather major difference.

Your confederate anscestors had all the rights that your founder anscestors fought and died for. That wasn't enough for them, they demanded to be in charge.