[donh]

We have indeed adressed those issues.

No. Not one of these specific points have been adequately addresses.

We -have- pointed out repeatedly is that there is no other leader in Europe that condemned Hitler in 1941-1942. Pius was the only one who -wasn't- silent. You simply ignore this as irrelevant.

I simply ignore it as misleading and incorrect.

by xmas of 1942 the handwriting was on the wall, and everybody was piling onto Hitler. It was before 1939, with the war in doubt, and with the holocaust being prepped or executed that the silence hurt.

And during this time, many leaders were appalled by Hitler--at dinner parties, in semi-formal matters of tangential moment, under the cups to their spouses. Much as Pius was in the cites that have been offered up here. At the risk of repeating myself--it is not the job of the Voice of Jesus to natter about poo-poo'ing. It is the job of the Voice of Jesus to put matters of prudence and politics aside and speak moral truth loud and clear about matters of terrrible moment.

[Qwinn]

"by xmas of 1942 the handwriting was on the wall, and everybody was piling onto Hitler. It was before 1939, with the war in doubt, and with the holocaust being prepped or executed that the silence hurt.

Before 1939, Pius XII wasn't Pope. He became Pope -in- 1939.

However, before 1939, the man who later became Pius XII spoke out through Pius XI, condemned anti-Semitism and racism on dozens of occassions, as I have already posted a dozen examples of on this thread.

Do you even read anything anyone responds to you? Or are you just hoping that other people didn't, so that they won't realize that you're still saying things that have already been proven wrong?

Qwinn

[rmlew]

The Holocaust was not decided until the Wanasee Conference in 1941.