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To: donh
And while you're giving us those primary sources, please post your own professional credentials as a historian, since you dismiss the writings of actual historians like Lapide, Dalin, and Jeno Levai in defense of Pius XII as mere "testimonials".
53 posted on 11/03/2003 2:43:50 PM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
see post 56 to Qwinn...your wasting your time man....
57 posted on 11/03/2003 3:17:59 PM PST by jscd3
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To: Campion; Qwinn
So...you find one lapsed catholic ...

So you see, Campion, unless you provide a fully exhaustive documentary list proving that every member of the SS who was ever related to a Catholic specifically denounced the Faith in writing, you will not impress little donh. And remember, no hearsay on this, it needs to be in an authenticated diary to satisfy mr don. After all, he has pretty high standards; a lot higher than Einstein's or any of the Jewish leaders who actually existed at the time and lived through the Holocoust, for exmple...

Like I posted earlier, Campion, donh is the anti-catholic version of a DU disrupter. Anyone reading the documentation posted by you, Qwinn, and others will be impressed by the depth of your evidence and the rather shrill nature of the attack...

61 posted on 11/03/2003 3:54:38 PM PST by jscd3
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To: Campion
And while you're giving us those primary sources, please post your own professional credentials as a historian, since you dismiss the writings of actual historians like Lapide, Dalin, and Jeno Levai in defense of Pius XII as mere "testimonials".

Please see the post above. You do not need to be an historian to see what the accords say, and to note that they were honored by Pius XII. Please cease this slight-of-hand argument. It is not a defense of the Pope in this matter to note that he saved some jews--it is a bait&switch rhetorical tactic.

113 posted on 11/05/2003 11:12:57 PM PST by donh (1)
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