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To: donh
...but my question is--what will prevent us from going back to reading Matthew just as it is written, once the holocaust is just a dim footnote in history books?

Then let's consider Matthew 27:25. The crowd did indeed reject Jesus, the Messiah. They thought so little of the one who had come to redeem him that they were willing to accept responsibility for his death. Of course, literally, they were not the ones who killed him. The Romans, in league with the Sanhedrin, did that. Yet they clearly rejected Him and didn't care whether they were held responsible.

Some commentators believe that the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. (about 40 years or one generation later - 40 years is thought of as a time of testing in the Scriptures) was the direct fulfillment of Matthew 27:25(and a direct fulfillment of Matthew 24:1-3.) Jerusalem fell, the Temple was destroyed, and the Old Covenant era came to an end.

God alone has the perogative to give and take life as He sees fit. This is not a perogative of mankind. So we can use this verse to discuss Israel's tragic rejection, as a nation, of the Messiah (though of course not every individual Jew rejected Jesus - some receive Him even today.) But to say that this means it is okay for Hitler to kill 6 million Jews, or for Christians to hold Jews responsible today for the crucifixion of Jesus is, to say the least, a real stretch.

Of course it all worked out for God's glory. If Jesus had not been crucified as the Passover lamb there would be no forgiveness of sins. And then no one could be saved.

134 posted on 11/06/2003 8:30:00 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
God alone has the perogative to give and take life as He sees fit. This is not a perogative of mankind.

So you are opposed to having an army or a death penalty for traitors and serial murderers?

So we can use this verse to discuss Israel's tragic rejection, as a nation, of the Messiah (though of course not every individual Jew rejected Jesus - some receive Him even today.) But to say that this means it is okay for Hitler to kill 6 million Jews, or for Christians to hold Jews responsible today for the crucifixion of Jesus is, to say the least, a real stretch.

Being "a real stretch" didn't prevent the Popes from issuing vile encyclicals against jews, and sparking pogroms from the pulpit during Holy Week.

Of course it all worked out for God's glory. If Jesus had not been crucified as the Passover lamb there would be no forgiveness of sins. And then no one could be saved.

...and so it goes. No one who is an orthodox jew who wishes to walk in the path of righteousness of his fathers and their fathers before them, since time out of mind, can be saved, by the lights of the church. Hence, an orthodox jew in a country governed by christian law must expect, sooner or later, to be a second class citizen--just has happened throughout Europe under the foresight of the Catholic Church.

Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

137 posted on 11/06/2003 9:17:02 AM PST by donh (1)
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