[Friend of thunder]

I am sure this man, this bishop, – my bishop – thinks that, by condoning the ordination of Gene Robinson, he is doing the right thing, thinks that he is doing Gods will. While I am not a theologian, not a member of the clergy, just a part of the laity, I think he is mistaken.

If he truly “sees Scripture as a living guide for our lives, which, along with tradition and our God-given human reason, serves to help the church and its members faithfully live into God's new future” then he cannot (as I see things) believe it is the inspired word of God. If he does not believe Scripture is the inspired word of God (and he may claim to) how can he determine what is of God and what is of man?

These are troubling times for the Episcopal Church U.S.A., I am not sure what we can do but wait, watch and, pray.

[Eala]

This is the diocese (though it was prior to Warner) where I could not find an Episcopal church home and left, after (quite by accident) finding a good home in a local Anglican ("Traditional Episcopal") church.

Oh, yes. Ping.

[Eala]

These are troubling times for the Episcopal Church U.S.A., I am not sure what we can do but wait, watch and, pray.

I have tried to collect lists of resources, for those remaining in ECUSA as well as those who choose to leave, and have posted them on my Traditional Anglican Directory page.

[First Amendment]

I hope the ultimate meaning of the event is that the world realizes that in the Episcopal Church, absolutely no one is barred from full participation.

Absolutely no one is barred? Is this man even slightly in touch with reality? I can see the line at the church door - the pedophiles (they've already convinced academia that they are a-ok), bestiality-afficiondos, brother and sister teams, necrophiles (I mean, it isn't *hurting* anyone!), S&M folks pulling each other on chains (Oh wait, homosexuals are already into that). Then Satan worshippers, regular avowed atheists, santeria and voodoo practitioners, etc etc - he said "Absolutely no one is barred." The dude is a lunatic, and worse, a lunatic playing "let's pretend" in a religious suit.

[First Amendment]

his consecration is a signal that the Episcopal Church acts on the promise made in baptism "to respect the dignity of every human being."

Major doublespeak. As though the "sex" acts that homosexuals engage in (no need to go into details, just keep in mind that such acts include but are not limited to the employment of urine and excrement) in any way "dignify" human existence. Just the reverse, homosexual acts are the most degrading miserable and humiliating anyone can imagine.

[mel]

There are not outcasts unless you are a conservative, then you are treated like a leper

[No_Outcome_But_Victory]

I am sure this man, this bishop, – my bishop – thinks that, by condoning the ordination of Gene Robinson, he is doing the right thing, thinks that he is doing Gods will. While I am not a theologian, not a member of the clergy, just a part of the laity, I think he is mistaken.

Bishop Warner has always tried to get the lead on this issue. He was the first, I believe to have an openly gay Cathedral dean (Robert Taylor).

A former Rector of my previous parish was afraid for the last five years of his ministry that Warner would fire him over his objections to homosexuality.

[Libertina]

Jesus respected people, but he also commanded them "go and sin no more."

[ASTM366]

Sodomite Bishop Gene Robinson

The newest leader in the New Age Apostate Church