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To: Rhoderic
go to guncite.com

You really need to study some better data than what you've been reading.

Russia has a higher murder rate, and we now know that even during the USSR days, it had a higher rate. It's gun control programs were a tad more effective, but they eclipse us in murders with blunt instruments, stabbings, etc.

Our murder rate with NON-firearms is higher than a lot of countries(but not all) in the industrialized world, it is a cultural phenomenon and some of it can be blamed on the Drug War as well. We have more suicides by firearm, because it is an available implement, but women do not typically kill themselves this way. Despite our suicide rate, Japan's is MUCH higher and they accomplish this without firearms.

The fact is, these rates have NOTHING to do with gun ownership or whether or not they are locked up.

You really sound like a troll, because I do not see how you have not encountered the truth up to this point.
170 posted on 10/31/2003 2:28:30 PM PST by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
I don't know who the moderator is, but I wish that he/she would not have removed Rhoderic's reply to me. I really wanted to respond to it.

I do like your response though. If they were to ban all guns, then what's next? Vehicles have more injuries and deaths than guns, plus "they cause global warming", shouldn't they be what is gone after first? How about knives? What would we do without knives? Golf clubs have been used, there go the country clubs (better let Tiger know). Baseball just won't be the same without the bats. I seem to recall people being killed by lamps, but we can survive in the dark. Of course the folks in the north will not like winter without fire to keep them warm. Imagine what our world would be like without all the things that can kill, oh how peaceful we will live. Oh, wait, I forgot people can kill with their bodies. Well I guess it will be just the landscape, because we can't let the animals live (they can kill too). Ah utopia finally.
198 posted on 11/03/2003 6:14:39 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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