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What one company is doing about the AWB and its possible Sunset
Armalite website ^ | unk | Mark A. Westrom

Posted on 10/31/2003 5:58:27 AM PST by Long Cut

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To: Long Cut
The smartest thing this company is doing is telling people to vote.

Registering Voters is the most urgent thing we need to do. The Democrat stratedy (from an inside source) is to get non-regular or occasional voters to vote in 2004. This is their below the radar strategy.

It also dovetails with a fraud theory if a number on unexpected people vote.
181 posted on 10/31/2003 4:17:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Long Cut
the no income tax is a part of the FL constitution. The former D gov tried, tried to overturn that provision. He failed.
182 posted on 10/31/2003 4:28:52 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Eaker
Eeh, what was that?
183 posted on 10/31/2003 5:07:18 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Stand and Deliver!! One round volly fire by Ranks....... FIRE!)
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To: cavtrooper21
LOL........;<)
184 posted on 10/31/2003 5:14:11 PM PST by Eaker (Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.............hmmmmmmmmm ;<)
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To: Kenton
Aside from the obvious feature of being able to bayonet wounded woodchucks [that's a joke, son], can anybody give me any practical reason to go to all the trouble to convert it into a PPB configuration?

What practical reason does it serve to put racing stripes on your vintage Mustang? Because it looks cool, and you can

185 posted on 10/31/2003 5:28:51 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: jjm2111
Texas is just too d@amn hot.

Not all of it. The Davis Mountains don't generally get all that hot, nor do they get all that cold in the winter, although cold enough for snow. Most of north Texas is much more like the rest of the great plains, not like Houston, which some refer to as Humidiston or Humidistan, even by San Antonians, which isn't all that much different.. but enough. The entire "Hill Country" is somewhat cooler than nearby locations, and is beautiful to boot.

186 posted on 10/31/2003 5:50:55 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: glock rocks
The muzzle brake is really no more ort less ugly than, say, a flash hider.

But does have a different function, albeit with some overlap. The muzzle brake on my G-3 (rebuilt to semi-auto) makes the thing really uncomfortable to shoot from a covered shooting position, and a covered shooting position is darn near mandatory in the San Antonio area, unless you want your brains fried if you spend much time on the range in the summer. A flash suppressor would not have the same effect. Of course you could take the thing off entirely, but then the gun would look "funny".

If the second amendment were really observed we'd not have to make do with semi-auto clones of the rifles we'd really like to have. The ones we have a right to have, even under the "Miller" decision of the Supreme Court, namely the same ones the military, and some police, have.

187 posted on 10/31/2003 5:57:31 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: StriperSniper
Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public?

They are "arms" within the meaning of the term in the second amendment. (It was not unusual for private individuals or private associations to own cannon or cannon armed ships at the time the second amendment was ratified, and even for several decades afterwards). So yes, we should be able to buy outdated Army tanks, or new ones from the manufactuer, if we've got the scratch.. which very few would.

188 posted on 10/31/2003 6:01:29 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato; humblegunner; TexasCowboy
If the second amendment were really observed we'd not have to make do with semi-auto clones of the rifles we'd really like to have. The ones we have a right to have, even under the "Miller" decision of the Supreme Court, namely the same ones the military, and some police, have.

We have a winner!!!!

189 posted on 10/31/2003 6:05:22 PM PST by Eaker (When the SHTF, I'll go down with a cross in one hand, and a Glock in the other.)
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To: El Gato
we should be able to

I agree, I just wouldn't encourage it for most.
I worry about most of the idiots out there with just regular cars. ;-)

190 posted on 10/31/2003 6:08:45 PM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Eaker
If the second amendment were really observed we'd not have to make do with semi-auto clones of the rifles we'd really like to have. The ones we have a right to have, even under the "Miller" decision of the Supreme Court, namely the same ones the military, and some police, have.

I'll bump that, with the amendment that as a well regulated militia we not only keep but bear our arms. I think that item is already covered somewhere....

191 posted on 10/31/2003 6:15:12 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Humblegunner.........

He had nerves of iron, a fine eye for targets and a weakness for automatic weapons.

And he scared the crap out of the other first graders!!!

Happy hunting brother!!!

192 posted on 10/31/2003 6:18:18 PM PST by Eaker (When the SHTF, I'll go down with a cross in one hand, and a Glock in the other.)
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To: Kenton
Aside from the obvious feature of being able to bayonet wounded woodchucks [that's a joke, son], can anybody give me any practical reason to go to all the trouble to convert it into a PPB configuration?

There are also a couple of fairly nice auxiliary lighting systems that mount to a rifle using the bayonet mount, and I've long used cutdown bayonet handles without blades as a basis for fitting bipods.

-archy-/-

193 posted on 10/31/2003 8:43:11 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Kenton
Aside from the obvious feature of being able to bayonet wounded woodchucks [that's a joke, son], can anybody give me any practical reason to go to all the trouble to convert it into a PPB configuration?

My wife's nephew (mine too of course) used the bayonet on his cut down SKS to finish off his first boar. The old boy had drug himself up onto a hard surfaced road before being unable to proceed any farther. They, his Dad and he, used the bayonet because they were worried about over penetration and a ricochet off that hard surface. So you never know. Meanwhile there has been no noticable drop in drive by bayonetings since the AWB and and earlier import ban.

194 posted on 10/31/2003 10:50:17 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; archy
The Benelli M1 is not yer daddys scattergun per se. I have two. My normal carry guns were Model 12 Winchester or Remington 870's and very simple to operate. My first benelli took some time and practice to adapt to. Recoil is murder and you "must" be very careful to avoid legal bullshit with regards to magazine extensions and the pistol grip AWB crap. HK can give ya the serial number cutoff for such combination do's and do nots but I have seen loophole trappin BatFag's nail folks for assembling a pre-ban configuration gun on a preban serial number so if you add a pistol grip or mag extension get your parts from the dark angels versus the store .

The benelli M1's have very hard recoil. Even with light loads. I have the Vang barrel porting on one and the other is plain brown wrapper out of the box. The ported one is fast , easier recoil and my best rig for "self defense" if I knew a fight was coming. If yer a gadget sort that will hang a bunch of goodies off the benelli like a side saddle, surfire light forend, add a weaver rail for an aimpoint and such then be prepared for malfunctions. The shotgun is a fine instrument and added weight can cause jams.

The benelli M1 is an awesome scattergun but to get the best and the most of its capabilities shoot a thousand rounds or so to understand what I'm saying. Use a few snap caps to practice reloading exercises and such to understand the system before ya have to do it half awake, confused and scared at Oh Dark Thirty some rainy night.

Some neat things about it you'll enjoy and other more complex manipulations will have to become muscle memorymatic for serious self defense use.

Just some suggestions to consider before ya drop the coin on the purchase.......

Stay Safe !

195 posted on 11/01/2003 7:48:34 AM PST by Squantos ("Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex.")
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To: Eaker
And even better, we could mount them on armored vehicles and go chase hoopties...
Although what you do with one once you catch it is beyond me....
196 posted on 11/01/2003 9:15:39 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Tree huggers be damned! I am not cat chow!!!)
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To: El Gato
My wife's nephew (mine too of course) used the bayonet on his cut down SKS to finish off his first boar.

LOL >>>>----->

I have an SKS with an attached bayonet too, and although it's never gotten a real workout, I have often considered that the bayonet would be good as a followup for boar...

197 posted on 11/03/2003 5:05:21 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Skywalk
I don't know who the moderator is, but I wish that he/she would not have removed Rhoderic's reply to me. I really wanted to respond to it.

I do like your response though. If they were to ban all guns, then what's next? Vehicles have more injuries and deaths than guns, plus "they cause global warming", shouldn't they be what is gone after first? How about knives? What would we do without knives? Golf clubs have been used, there go the country clubs (better let Tiger know). Baseball just won't be the same without the bats. I seem to recall people being killed by lamps, but we can survive in the dark. Of course the folks in the north will not like winter without fire to keep them warm. Imagine what our world would be like without all the things that can kill, oh how peaceful we will live. Oh, wait, I forgot people can kill with their bodies. Well I guess it will be just the landscape, because we can't let the animals live (they can kill too). Ah utopia finally.
198 posted on 11/03/2003 6:14:39 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Squantos
My own particular scattercannon is a Charles Daley tactical. 18-inch barrel, 5-shot tube, and weighs all of about six pounds, and is short and handy. It's not as fancy or "finely-finished" as some guns, but it WORKS, and works well. I once put about 200 different shells through it in one day's shooting session, and had no jams or malfunctions at all. After cleaning, it looked brand new. Hell, I was even able to practice one-handed firing (in case of injury) with no ill effects, so light was the kick. All that for $200.00.

My only complaint is that few if any accessories are made for the gun. I wouldn't mind a light-holding forend or a pistol grip stock, but to my knowledge, none are made for the gun.

However, with a mix of slugs and #6 shot, it makes for an excellent housekeeper.

199 posted on 11/08/2003 3:49:25 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Jeff Head
Hey Jeff Head? Why are our forces disarming Iraqi civilians all over the country right now? Would you be upset if your neighborhood was plauged with crime and an American soldier kicked down your door and took your rifle?

400 hundred Americans have died in this occupation. That is a lot. How many Iraqi civilians have died due to crime and lawlessness all over Iraq in the last 6 months? Does anyone stop to consider that? Even East Germans started to have nostaligic feelings for the Communist nanny government that had held them in squalor for 40 years but at least equal squalor!

American soldiers kicking down doors, taking guns, and setting up barbed wire around towns. That is just not this country!

200 posted on 11/17/2003 9:36:50 PM PST by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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