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To: Steve_Seattle
...Sobran and Buchanan... are very sour on contemporary American/Western society, view it as apostate, vulgar, and morally corrupt...

A view I share. I am a good deal more than sour on contemporary society, possessed as it is by the Culture of Death.

...and therefore have a secret admiration for Islamic societies in which traditional religious values remain dominant.

I admire Moslem culture insofar as it correctly refuses to acknowledge the secular ideal of government and society that has infected our own culture since the so-called Enlightenment. Those followers of Mohammed that proclaim through their actions the virtues of cleanliness, piety, respect, and charity are certainly to be admired by any moral person. The individual probity of the pious Moslem and cultural respect for the natural law present in Islamic societies, however, do not negate the disorder inherent in their culture that stems from its foundation, the heretical and anti-christian cult of Islam; a house built upon sand will surely fall, even if the sand is the sand of Mecca.

If it is true that Sobran wishes to inhabit a society in which traditional religious values remain dominant, then I agree with him in that desire: I, too, despise the corruptions of modern, secular society. But hatred of Jews is neither a Christian value nor a defense against decadence. Decadence is the result of hatred — the hatred of God — and those who harbor hatred towards Jews or any other group of people only contribute to its spread.

169 posted on 10/30/2003 12:41:09 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
A lot of Christian conservatives view contemporary society as "apostate, vulgar, and morally corrupt," which it clearly is, but we don't all feel a need to blame the Jews for this situation. Nor are we willing to cast our lot with the Muslim absolutists in an effort to regain some imagined lost purity, or to impose a future reign of God upon the unwilling. As Christians we will accept the world as a mix of good and evil, do what we can to improve it, and leave our ultimate destiny in the hands of God.
173 posted on 10/30/2003 1:00:33 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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