Southern California Fires -- Live Thread 10/29

[lainie]

Cal Fire Maps

http://wildfire.cr.usgs.gov/ca_geomac/viewer.htm

http://www.incidentcontrol.com

http://www.firedetect.ssd.nesdis.noaa.gov/Run.htm

Live online scanner feeds for fire, cops, CDF, air attack

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag

FYI, this one gives pop ups if you use it.

No pop ups on this feed

http://www.police-scanner.info/livescan.htm

Another live scanner feed.

Click on Big Bear Feed

http://www.compucations.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=LiveScanners

another live feed for socal, Verdugo Fire Communications Center

http://verdugo.ci.glendale.ca.us/radio.html

Simi Valley fire scanner

http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=scanner&numresult=100&x=34&y=9

http://209.153.152.2:8888 lots of scanner chatter in Ventura county

CHP Dispatch

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

CDF AIR CHANNELS

Red - 151.220 - Air to ground units Blue - 151.280 - Air to air Green - 151.295 - Air to air Yellow - 151.310 - Air to air Victor - 122.925 AM - Air to air for contract helicopters

List of channels for SoCal

http://www.qsl.net/ke6alv/

Get a copy of Police call for when you're mobile.

http://www.policecall.com/

San Bernardino National Forest

171.475 mhz and 172.225

123.9750 National Air Tanker Base Freq. 135.9750 Air ops 151.2200 CDF Red Air to Ground 151.2650 CDF Region 151.3100 CDF Air Tactics 6 151.3550 CDF Command Net 1 154.2650 OES White Fire 2 154.2800 OES White Fire 1 154.2950 OES White Fire 3 164.1250 Fire Camp Service Net 166.6125 "Command" Fontana area 166.8500 Air attack 167.9500 BLM Air to Ground 168.0500 NIFC Tac 1 168.0750 NIFC Tac 3 168.200 NIFC Tac 2 (Crew Net) 168.2500 BLM? "Command" 168.4000 BLM "Command" 168.6000 NIFC Tac 3 168.6250 Air Guard 169.1250 Calif. Fire Travel Net 169.0625 vehicle mechanics? 170.0000 Air to Ground Region 5 173.9125 Region 5 Tac 4 173.9625 Region 5 Tac 5 173.9875 Region 5 Tac 6 415.5500 National Air channel

HAM

145.220

Los Angeles Area

KNBC: http://www.nbc4.tv

KABC: http://www.abc7.com

KCBS: http://www.cbs2.com

KTTV: http://www.fox11la.com

KCAL: http://www.kcal.com

Good list of SoCal television stations and links to their websites:

http://newslink.org/catele.html

San Diego

http://nbcsandiego.feedroom.com/?fr_story=af0368e01c0323615f2e6f30970885b317fe905c

http://www.kogo.com/streaming.html

List of online TV and Newspapers in Ca.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/opsd/np/ca.htm

2 posted on 10/27/2003 9:18 PM PST by spectr17

[Ladypixel]

Seems to be working just fine for me so far. If my wireless net connection suddenly does weird stuff, I'll be sure to mention it. :)

[Ladypixel]

G'nite, Kayak.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Night, kayak. THANKS for the prayers.

[spectr17]

nite

[lainie]

I've said many times now, I just wanna make a plate of sandwiches or somethin. But I wouldn't know where to go. Where do you go?

[lainie]

Thank you so much :-)

[BBQ_Mike]

Mentone Beach... the Mentone Beach Yacht Club... hope that area ia safe.

[Fitzcarraldo]

they just announced Mentone is being threatended on hwy 38,

Is the evac out of 38 complete?

[BurbankKarl]

two areas flaring up:


south of lake drive at lake gregory

east of manzanita, cross of old mill

[lainie]

evening..so glad to see you back amongst the posting!

[Ladypixel]

Update from the weblog of a teacher at Rim High School. Link to the weblog, as well as the link he mentions in the log entry, at the end of this post:

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Tue - October 28, 2003
Evening Edition -- 10:14 pm PDT

I need to rest for a bit. Please visit this link for more information on any area.
I will update every hour or so through the night; I also have had 3 hours of sleep since Friday.
Our hearts go out to ALL victims and workers of ALL the fires in CA.


- Update: The fire is holding west of the Santa Ana drainage and threatening Running Springs. [USDA Forest Service]

- There is a group of fire fighters hunkering down because they are surrounded by a fire. They ARE holding their own and keeping the fire within a perimeter. The Silverwood fire has many complications and is being difficult to control. More crews are coming from the Grand Prix fire. Evacuations in this area are a priority.

- The fire in Devore is active and being covered on TV; more strike teams are coordinating.

- "We have so far dodged the cedar fire here in poway, so we are praying for another miss in Running Springs." [San].
- "GVL still quiet, winds calm." [Jeff]

- Confirmed: "Urbz, my husband is a deputy and just went past the Storybook Inn about and hour ago and it was standing and fine for now." [G, message board]

- The vet on Bear Springs seems to have survived. [J. Moody]

- Much needed assistance from other states are on their way (Nevada firefighters and Utah Hot Shots).

- KCAL9's Rick Chambers stated that the high school is in decent shape and there was no real threat as of now.

- Eric Leonard from KFI am 640 is reporting from the side of HWY 18 and saying that fire still has not reached RS, yet. [message board]

- Rim forest update. Sheriff deputy checked out viking tire ok, and surrounding houses. The ones that burned were across from the cable company up to the block building all along that side. [G, message board]

- Patrick Healy reported that they are hoping the NE direction of the fire will spill into the area BETWEEN Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear. The winds are going south to north, which is bad. The Running Springs flank of the fire is about 2 miles from Running Springs.

- Highway 138/Lake Silverwood is on fire: 40 plus acres. They are working on it; but it is erratic.

- More news coming. Mr. Leonard from AM Radio 640 seems to be pretty accurate with his coverage (you can access them via their website as a streaming radio station). TV is really struggling with accuracy.

- An ABC7 helicopter reporter said the fire that crossed 18 near Kuffle had laid down. He said that air fire crews told him it was due to fire retardant drops and the cool of evening. Fire fighters are to go hard at the area tonight. [Herb Stroh]

- Fire officials are EXTREMELY concerned that the two flanks (SkyForest & Running Springs) will conjoin and create more havoc during the night (they assume this is inevitable). The fire has NOT reached Lake Arrowhead just yet, but it is jumping all over the place by Rim High School crossing 18 back and forth. [Chuck Henry, NBC4]

- Big Bear update: Traffic evacuating on Highway 18 are moving at a slow but steady pace. Some people have gone back to their homes because traffic was so thick; they did not want to spend the evening on the road (there are over 80,000 in the mountain communities). Speeds pick up after the hairpin turns. Smoke has filled the Valley even though the actual fire is a good distance away from us. I loaded a picture of smoke at sunset to http://www.bigbear.us [Radha Khalsa]

- All structure damage & loss reports are handled by the police or sheriff authority, where the structure is located, not the Red Cross!

- The State of California Insurance Commissioner has established an information line for the public to use for questions on insurance-related matters. The toll-free number is 1-800-927-HELP. Information is also available on the Internet at www.insurance.ca.gov

- On October 27, 2003, President Bush declared a major disaster for the State of California, triggering the release of federal funds to help people and communities recover from the Wildfires that occurred October 21, 2003, and continuing. Toll-free Tele-registration number for disaster victims: 1-800-621-FEMA, TTD 1-800-462-7585.[incidentcontrol.com]

- There is still a battle going in SkyForest & Santa's Village. Chuck Henry on NBC4 gave a longer detailed report (and this time, he was on safer ground).

- Waiting for the temperatures to drop to the 30's & 40's and maybe the wind will die down and add humidity.

- The whole Big Bear area is under a MANDATORY evacuation. Check www.bigbear.us for updates. Also check out CBS2 website.

- More coming... (it is hard to get factual data now; like the fire itself, false claims and incorrect information is rampant.)

- The fire is crowning now leading into Lake Arrowhead. It will not let up whatsoever.

- 80 percent of aerial tactics have been called off tonight for Lake Arrowhead due to columns of smoke. [NBC4]

- NBC 4 news is reporting that police have found an abandoned van that matches the description of the arsonists'' van. [Robert Daeley]
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2586925/detail.html

- Listening to the scanners, especially the air crews, their professionalism and communication skills are impeccable. [webmaster]

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Joseph's weblog: http://homepage.mac.com/joeurbz/iblog/index.html

The link he mentioned:
http://www.rimoftheworld.net/messages

[Looking for Diogenes]

The city of Pasadena owns Eaton Canyon below the falls. The County Fire Dept. controls the Mt. Wilson Toll Road below Henninger Flats. Those two do not always follow Angeles National Forest closures lock step. The head of Eaton Canyon is at Eaton Saddle, between San Gabriel Pk and Mt Wilson, and is solidly inside the ANF.

Eaton Canyon was the site of a major fire in October of 1993 that was started by a transient cooking his dinner over an open fire while Santa Ana winds were howling.

[wolficatZ]

 Incident: 0007  Type: Media Information  Location: CHP ROAD CLOSURES DUE TO FIRES  Zoom Map:   Info as of: 10/29/2003 12:16:26 AM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS

12:13AM	-	ALPINE ROAD IS CLOSED TO ALL NON-RESIDENTS FROM ARNOLD WAY TO TAVERN ROAD
12:11AM	-	NORTH LAKE WOHLFORD ROAD AT STATION ROAD
12:11AM	-	PARADISE AT WOODS VALLEY ROAD
12:11AM	-	PINE HILLS ROAD IS CLOSED
12:11AM	-	SUNRISE HWY IS CLOSED OLD 80 TO SR-79
12:04AM	-	SR-76 IS CLOSED FROM SOUTH GRADE TO SR-79
12:04AM	-	SR-78 IS CLOSED AT PINE HILLS SOUTH OF SR-78
12:04AM	-	SR-79 IS CLOSED FROM SANTA YSABEL TO I-8
12:02AM	-	SR-78 AND SR-79 ARE CLOSED AT SANTA YSABEL TO THE TOWN OF JULIAN
12:02AM	-	I-8 IS CLOSED BETWEEN EAST WILLOWS ROAD AND BUCKMAN SPRINGS ROAD

[lainie]

oh wow! You are that far from arrowhead and cna smell the fire?

I can taste, hear, see, AND smell it. Can't touch it yet, but the day is young.

[It's me]

Anybody have an update on the Julian fire?

[MSCASEY]

Thanks for the update I got the link to work. How far away is the fire from Big Bear?

Nana has a house there! I already talked to friends earlier in Simi Valley! What a mess glad I am not there!

MCD

[Ladypixel]

Yup. I'm real familiar with Eaton Canyon - grew up there. I did not realize, however, that it was owned by Pasadena; that's cool to know.

I remember that fire... but it's been ten years, so there's plenty of fresh fuel for fires there. Siiiigh.

[BBQ_Mike]

lots of stubborn people still up in the Big Bear area... I just talked to a relative of a couple of knuckleheads that plan on using hoses until the fire reaches them or the water pressure gives out... if it gets too serious, they plan on rowing a small boat out to the middle of the lake.

My fire insurance is paid up... made sure of that.

[Vetnet]

Negative on Julian update, but I'm scanning it and will post asap

[Ladypixel]

At last report, the fire was headed towards Julian, was approx. 90 minutes out of Julian. Probably more like 70 minutes out of Julian now, based off of when the report was done.