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PARENTS SPOILED GIRLS, STARVED BOYS: COPS
NY Post ^ | 10-27-03 | NY Post

Posted on 10/27/2003 1:16:10 AM PST by ambrose

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The sicko New Jersey couple who starved their four sons apparently preferred their daughters - allowing them to pig out in front of the boys, authorities said.

While the little girls could be seen frolicking in a small pool behind the family's house in the middle-class Philadelphia suburb of Collingswood in the summer, the tragic skin-and-bones boys were forced to wash their clothes in a bucket on the side of the house and clip the grass with small hand shears, neighbors said.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adoption; monsters
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1 posted on 10/27/2003 1:16:10 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; onyx; TheAngryClam
He said the family went to church every Sunday and sang gospel songs back at the house at night
2 posted on 10/27/2003 1:18:07 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Yeah, and the parents probably saluted the Flag while reciting the Pledge of Allegiance--including the words "under God."

One moral of this story is to distinguish form from substance, surface from depth, appearance from reality, symbology from semantics. The wolves know how to artfully use the cultural and social traditions to dress themselves as sheep.

The map is not the territory. Those who don't fully understand this are easily fooled.

3 posted on 10/27/2003 1:28:28 AM PST by sourcery (Moderator bites can be very nasty!)
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To: ambrose
The boys - ages 9, 10, 14 and 19 - weren't wasting away from disease, but from the stomach-churning neglect of their parents,

What the hell was the 19 year old doing ? this sounds a bit screwy to me first thing that would have happened is an arse whooping of a 50 year old man! then a call to the cops to protect my brothers !

5 posted on 10/27/2003 1:54:48 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit. -Rush Limbaugh)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Yes maybe for a healthy 19 year old but this 19 year old was 4 feet tall and 45 pounds.
6 posted on 10/27/2003 1:58:01 AM PST by bitcon
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To: ambrose
He said the family went to church every Sunday and sang gospel songs back at the house at night.

Hypocrites.

7 posted on 10/27/2003 2:12:54 AM PST by onyx
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To: ambrose
Adopting children to torture them. Sick.
8 posted on 10/27/2003 2:22:03 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Apparently, he got adopted several years ago.
9 posted on 10/27/2003 2:50:59 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (I remember, doing the time warp.....)
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To: ambrose; RGSpincich
Those jackbooted thugs from CPS again - just interfering with the sovereign rights of parents to raise children as they see fit.
10 posted on 10/27/2003 2:52:37 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (I remember, doing the time warp.....)
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To: ambrose
Still no pictures at any media source; just a video of the house.
11 posted on 10/27/2003 3:01:37 AM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Not to starve them but to get money from the state so they did not have to worry about working. I blame the NJ childcare agency, the people next door, the entire group of support staff in NJ. No medical appointments? No school?
You men a school nurse, teacher and staff watched this?
No way. I bet they did not send them to school. The dead boys found in North NJ was bad enough. You have to wonder what the case worker smoked before she went there. I would love to know where she got her degree and how she got the job?
12 posted on 10/27/2003 3:23:04 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"We have a caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years, and many of those times, she saw all seven children, and she reported in the case record that those children were all safe, despite the fact that the utilities had been turned off for the last six months, the kitchen doors were locked shut and the four boys were obviously starving."

Uh I wouldn't attempt to defend CPS on this thread. Jackbooted thugs or not, here's yet ANOTHER tragic example of their incompatence.

13 posted on 10/27/2003 3:35:17 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: KantianBurke
Oh, I'm not. Just making a preemptive comment that is very apropos to a certain mindset that exists here.
14 posted on 10/27/2003 3:37:33 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (I remember, doing the time warp.....)
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To: KantianBurke
Besides, the likelihood that those visits were ever actually made is somewhere between slim and none.
15 posted on 10/27/2003 3:38:39 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (I remember, doing the time warp.....)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
all the more reason that such a govt entity should be abolished. During the Jeb Bush/dead Florida girl threads, one poster had a pretty good idea as to what CPS should be replaced with. I'll go and see if I can find it.
16 posted on 10/27/2003 3:44:37 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: oldironsides
You have to wonder what the case worker smoked before she went there.

Who knows? But I’d bet that the case worker “identified” with the parents in some major way.

17 posted on 10/27/2003 4:06:57 AM PST by bimbo
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From the article:
"...The couple... lived off stipends they got from the government for the children...the state's...caseworker who went to a house 38 times in two years...reported in the case record that those children were all safe..."
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Obviously, the couple are scum.
But this is yet another example of Government at its worst.
The couple used the system for personal gain.
The system used the couple for job security.
The children suffered horribly from the arrangement.
18 posted on 10/27/2003 4:22:18 AM PST by DefCon
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Please don't dump on all caseworkers. You only hear of the few in thousands of thousands who screwed up. There are many more who do a wonderful job and have saved kids from other such horrible incidents. In that same line of thinking, one could also blame the entire concept of homeschooling or public schooling depending on which applied in this incidence.

That said, what about the rest of their community who also didn't see the abuse? The school, the church, neighbors, relatives, friends, the grocery store clerk, the utility serviceman, the mailman, or any other of the hundreds of people they've come in contact with over the years. No one knew because the "parents" were evidently very good at fooling the whole of New Jersey.
19 posted on 10/27/2003 4:26:10 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: ambrose
Church going doth not a Christian make.
20 posted on 10/27/2003 4:28:18 AM PST by rintense
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