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To: FairOpinion
The fact that multiple fires started on the first day of Ramadamned can hardly be a coincidence.
39 posted on 10/27/2003 3:18:26 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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Now someone started a fire in New Mexico --- also close to the Mexican border. I'm wondering if we're going to regret keeping the borders wide open to whoever wanted to come to the US for whatever reason they might come here. We're at war but we've done nothing to secure our own borders. It doesn't seem too smart.
49 posted on 10/28/2003 9:10:58 PM PST by FITZ
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The coincidence of the first day of Ramadan and the fires beginning might be off a bit. USGS has the first fires beginning in the 21st and many starting later on the 23rd.

I also find the areas being burnt rather interesting. The fires, if happenstance, happened to form an operational threatening pattern to the entire SoCal basin. That threat also included Ensenada, Mexico, essentially attempting to seal off all passes to isolate the area from other access.

It strikes me that there may have been a handful or more copycat arsonists running around after the first few days of reported fires, but before that time, a pattern had already been forming.

If this had been Al Quada, the fires in Ensenada don't seem as well justified. There might be other powers involved, which might also employ elements of Al Quada, as well as diverse segments and groups such as ELF, but if so then nationality might not be the identifying label for the real threat,...if these events were attributable to any centralized cause or conspiracy.

4 point seem unique. Ramadan, the pattern of the fires as an operational art, Ensenada had fires (so multinational in scope), Coincident with week of Halloween.

The points of the shape seem to imply some person or group intended these fires as an attack upon the metropolitan area.

The points of when the attack occurred are coincident with periods of possible activism by two disaparate groups with identifiable elements who have already declared themselves as enemies of the Constitution or at least criinal in behavior.

The fires in Ensenada tend to imply whatever root cause is ideed multinational in intent.

Other interests promoting/condoning the fire might have included some liberal Socialist Democratic perspectives. Over a million trees had been killed by the Bark Beetles. California has a finacial crisis. A fire of such scope might ave been viewed by controllable elements as a mechanism to socially redirect national assets to the region.

My perspective is that regardless of human intent, there are powers, authorities, and principalities which also influence events. The synchronicity of observable events and interests implies these diverse elements are usable to advance an ulterior agenda. Even if unintentional, these same elements may be used in an operatioal art to attack our nation in the future. Those elements need be controlled so as to act within and in obedience to God through Jesus Christ. It is interesting to note that all of the interests condoning the fire also act independent of God's will through Jesus Christ. (Namely, extreme Muslim, Paganism, socialism, even the possibility of a foreign nation attacking US and Mexican soil if such an outlandish conspiracy existed.)

I've noticed that where such awkward situations arise, there probably hasn't been an orchestrated conspiracy by any one or group of men, but spiritual warfare displays similar consequences. When righteous men reject temptation, others not so stout might then be attacked by spiritual warfare. Those attacked are frequently attacked per their perceived weaknesses.

In these situations the 'bad' part of those who are unbelievers tends to manifest itself per the independent and organized will of the respective unbeliever.

An extreme Muslim might act upon their view of vengeance or justice. A socialist might act out of implementing a controlled society independent of God. A Chinese general might be rehearsing and measuring response times of a regional infreastructure. A pagan might be conducting worship to a false god. An arsonist might simply be responding to a desire of the flesh or desire to control worldly power.

Perhaps the early rains were merely a Divine response to even one faithful prayer, and probably graceful divine gift to answer a cacauphony of the faithful appeals for intervention.
56 posted on 11/01/2003 1:47:10 AM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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