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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer has been called a murderer and equated with the Roman governor who condemned Jesus to death. He has been vilified in Internet chat rooms and has received death threats by e-mail.

Greer is the judge who granted Terri Schiavo's husband permission to remove her feeding tube in one of the longest and most contentious right-to-life battles. His decision was second-guessed and essentially overridden by the Florida Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush last week.

Following judicial code of conduct, Greer has been silent about the public debate over the Schiavo case and the criticism he has faced. He declined a request for an interview.

But those who know the 61-year-old probate judge say he is a prudent jurist who probably agonized over his decisions.

"He is such a good and decent man and to have this kind of rap being put on him right now is so unfair," said Mary Repper, a political strategist who has helped Greer's campaigns. "If ever this was to be put into the hands of someone who is going to be fair and do the right thing, George was the right person."

Through four years of hearings and legal wrangling, Greer considered Michael Schiavo's request to remove his severely brain-damaged wife's feeding tube against the wishes of her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

A heart attack in 1990 left Terri Schiavo, now 39, in a persistently vegetative state and court-appointed doctors believe there is no hope of recovery. Greer ruled Michael Schiavo showed "clear and convincing" evidence his wife did not want to be kept alive artificially and permitted him to end her nourishment.

The extraordinary reversal of his ruling by Bush and the Legislature will now become the central issue in a new legal fight over the separation of powers that will be waged to overturn what's now known as "Terri's Law."

While Greer has become a key figure in the international news event, few outside of Pinellas County know the man who friends describe as conservative, religious and particularly sensitive to protecting the disabled.

Greer is legally blind and cannot drive. While his condition doesn't hamper his abilities on the bench, colleagues and others said in interviews last week it gives him a perspective in dealing with the rights of the impaired few jurists have.

"He is so conscientious anyway, you put a case involving human life in front of him and it makes him even more careful," said Ed Armstrong, a Clearwater attorney who describes Greer as his mentor. "It's been an ordeal for him too."

Greer is a member of a conservative Baptist church which recently advocated keeping Terri Schiavo alive in a church newsletter. A moderate Republican, Greer served on the Pinellas County Commission for eight years before running unopposed for a circuit judgeship in 1992.

Repper and former Pinellas County Commissioner Charles Rainey said the fact that no one opposed the quiet, studious Greer speaks volumes for how well he is regarded in Pinellas County.

"He's doing what the law says to do. I am sure he struggles with himself, knowing George," Rainey said. "The man did everything he was asked to do as far as checking out the case, checking out the medical situation and he did it two or three times."

Greer is known for answering his own telephone in chambers and until recently being easily accessible to the press, characteristics that his friends say are holdovers from his days of being an elected official.

Born in Brooklyn, N.Y., Greer graduated from Clearwater High School. He graduated from the University of Florida law school and was a successful zoning attorney in Clearwater when he was elected to the county commission in 1984. He been a judge since 1992 and is up for re-election next year.

Michael Schiavo first asked the probate court for permission to disconnect his wife's feeding tube in 1998, saying his wife had told him that she never wanted to be kept alive artificially. Her parents disagree. Two other judges handled the case before it was passed to Greer.

Greer turned down repeated requests from the Schindlers to order therapy for their daughter or to dismiss Michael Schiavo as her guardian. Just this week, Greer set a hearing in November, nearly a year after the Schindlers' last motion for a new guardian, to discuss that issue.

The Schindlers' attorneys attempted to have Greer removed from the case in recent weeks, saying he had improperly discussed the case with others. An appeals court decided Greer would stay.

The Schiavo case is not the only time Greer has been faced with the issue of removing a feeding tube from a vegetative patient. In 2000, the wife and grown children of St. Petersburg attorney Blair Clark faced off in Greer's courtroom after Clark collapsed from a heart attack.

Clark had a living will which said he did not want a feeding tube or respirator if he was determined to be in a permanent vegetative state. But his Chinese-born wife - who disputed her husband was vegetative and believed he could hear her - wanted to try acupuncture and medical techniques from her homeland.

Greer allowed an acupuncturist to administer a treatment session, and then granted Clark's children permission to withdraw their father's feeding tube. Clark's wife did not appeal the decision.

Clark died within days of the tube's removal.

"He was sympathetic and empathetic to the fact that we had somebody who in her culture believed in these alternative methods," said Doug Williamson, who represented the Clark children.

William Mayhew, who represented Clark's wife Ping, said he too believes Greer simply followed the law.

"Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."



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KEYWORDS: judgegreer; terrischiavo
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To: kattracks
As soon as I read the words "persistent vegetative state", I stop reading. They lied about that so the rest is probably a lie, too. Why bother? The media is killing Terri Schiavo just as surely as Michael Schiavo and that monster attorney of his. Yeah, right - this Judge is a saint. LOL!
121 posted on 10/25/2003 10:11:42 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Notwithstanding
Way to go, legal beagle! Full fledged and flying.
122 posted on 10/25/2003 10:15:13 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Calpernia; Canticle_of_Deborah; sfRummygirl
#3
123 posted on 10/25/2003 10:18:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks for the Terri ping, is there any way to find out up-to-date (today,Sat 25th news or progress?)
Have been gone all day and wondering.............
124 posted on 10/25/2003 10:29:47 PM PDT by oreolady (Have you reviewed your living will lately?)
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To: oreolady
I believe I have pinged the list to all relevant articles posted today. There are one or two that are duplicates I didn't ping. As far as news of Terri's condition today, I haven't heard anything. I guess I am looking at is as no news is good news.
125 posted on 10/25/2003 10:32:35 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: MainFrame65
Terri had a GAL which did not believe Michael and his relatives ' statements that Terri wanted to die. He issued a 10 page report which is probably part of the sealed court papers. Felos got the Judge to dismiss him and Greer never appointed another GAL.
126 posted on 10/25/2003 10:33:27 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: middie
"The circuit judge presiding in probate did what the evidence and applicable law indicated."

Even if you personally reviewed all evidence submitted and all law that was applicable, this would merely be your opinion and your are surely entitled to it. But in today's America, an alarming number of judges have become political creatures with a point of view.

These same judges are not beyond using their position to manipulate the law in order to advance their point of view.

Their goals are no more lofty or noble than those of the legislative or executive branch.

Some judges truly believe that they are above both the legislative and executive branch. This belief is a malignancy that truly endangers our freedoms.

They are not the anointed members of some infallable elite priesthood.

I would like to believe that all judges are impartial and above the political struggle to gain, exercise, and maintain power but I do not.

Having said that what recourse do the people have other than the legislative and executive branches of government to prevent a dictatorship of a politicized judiciary.

I will not say that Greer is one of these judges. But it should be noted that his bio refers to him as a consummate politician.

I also see the result of his work.

127 posted on 10/25/2003 10:33:59 PM PDT by isrul
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To: EternalVigilance
And Terri has endured total sensory deprivation, no pictures,no music....NOTHING!

Those are interrogation tactics used on POW's not frail disabled women.
128 posted on 10/25/2003 10:35:03 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: All
I think you should send some of the material on this site to Larry King:

http://www.hospicepatients.org/Hosp-FL-Suncoast-entrypage.html

He may be a big pro death liberal but he also knows that a good scandal helps keep the TV ratings up. (Kobe is a good example of this.) And if this doesn't qualify than I don't know what does.

129 posted on 10/25/2003 10:44:39 PM PDT by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: middie
Get over it and just allow her to be put to death just so you can re-inforce the separation of powers?

No - don't quite think this is worth a woman's life. There is injustice going on here. There is abuse of the law to allow murder. And you think all should sit back and get over it?

I do not intend to quietly allow the judges to reinterpret laws, to redefine the meaning of vegetative and to ignore evidence that demands investigation on many fronts that have not been investigated. How easy for a judge to do his job and brush aside the little inconveniences and questions in motive that are raised.

And, when he does so, we are to ignore it? No, the judges are not foolproof either as we are seeing as they write law from the bench. Now, they are reinterpreting law and if successful, they then use this reinterpreted law or definition of words as precedent. Apparently this judge ignored the volumes of indications that Michael was abusing the power over this woman.

Your little separation of powers will have to be able to handle the situations of abuse of those powers and the fact that these abuses will be corrected.

130 posted on 10/25/2003 11:06:18 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: Theodore R.
"Did you mean George W. Greer or Greer's friend the sheriff?"

I meant Greer. But did you know the sheriff is a member of the hospice foundation of Florida ($uncoast)?

131 posted on 10/25/2003 11:08:38 PM PDT by isrul
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To: sweetliberty
Great post - love the violin serenade.
132 posted on 10/25/2003 11:09:52 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: isrul
..."Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."


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Such a pity for Terri. Looks like this judge is getting a little bit of the God complex.
133 posted on 10/25/2003 11:12:16 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: ClancyJ

134 posted on 10/25/2003 11:13:41 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: gg188
How can we have "equilibrium" if the courts can't be overruled?
135 posted on 10/25/2003 11:19:27 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Normally a Lurker
Oh, you mean "others" such as the "loving husband's" siblings?? Oh, yes, those are really impartial parties.
136 posted on 10/25/2003 11:22:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: isrul
Anyone have a list of our cast of characters who are, or have been, Hospice Board Members or who serve in other capacities on Hospice? And do they serve with .. or without .. pay? Would be very interesting ... this could be a whole 'nother thread.
137 posted on 10/25/2003 11:39:24 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; livius
The only connection I'm aware of is that one of Greer's fellow judges' has a sister who just recently left the Hospice as Board Chairman. Judge John C. Lenderman, and his sister is Martha Lenderman.

Did I miss something?
138 posted on 10/26/2003 12:22:32 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: Theodore R.
Greer is a member of a conservative Baptist church which recently advocated keeping Terri Schiavo alive in a church newsletter.

from the article above...
139 posted on 10/26/2003 12:47:05 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: FR_addict
Regarding Martha Lenderman from this link, the Winter 2003 Hospice Newsletter: http://www.thehospice.org/newsarc5.htm

"It has been my honor to be associated with The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast since 1996. Although I am passing the role as board chair to Sharon Miletich, I am not leaving this wonderful organization. I have learned so much during my tenure as board chair and have such respect for the other board members who have served with me. It has been especially gratifying to lead the board during the 25th anniversary year of our hospice.
by Martha Lenderman
Outgoing Chair, Board of Directors"
140 posted on 10/26/2003 12:50:48 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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