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Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case)
AP | 10/25/03 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:46:41 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks
As soon as I read the words "persistent vegetative state", I stop reading. They lied about that so the rest is probably a lie, too. Why bother? The media is killing Terri Schiavo just as surely as Michael Schiavo and that monster attorney of his. Yeah, right - this Judge is a saint. LOL!
121 posted on 10/25/2003 10:11:42 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Notwithstanding
Way to go, legal beagle! Full fledged and flying.
122 posted on 10/25/2003 10:15:13 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Calpernia; Canticle_of_Deborah; sfRummygirl
#3
123 posted on 10/25/2003 10:18:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks for the Terri ping, is there any way to find out up-to-date (today,Sat 25th news or progress?)
Have been gone all day and wondering.............
124 posted on 10/25/2003 10:29:47 PM PDT by oreolady (Have you reviewed your living will lately?)
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To: oreolady
I believe I have pinged the list to all relevant articles posted today. There are one or two that are duplicates I didn't ping. As far as news of Terri's condition today, I haven't heard anything. I guess I am looking at is as no news is good news.
125 posted on 10/25/2003 10:32:35 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: MainFrame65
Terri had a GAL which did not believe Michael and his relatives ' statements that Terri wanted to die. He issued a 10 page report which is probably part of the sealed court papers. Felos got the Judge to dismiss him and Greer never appointed another GAL.
126 posted on 10/25/2003 10:33:27 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: middie
"The circuit judge presiding in probate did what the evidence and applicable law indicated."

Even if you personally reviewed all evidence submitted and all law that was applicable, this would merely be your opinion and your are surely entitled to it. But in today's America, an alarming number of judges have become political creatures with a point of view.

These same judges are not beyond using their position to manipulate the law in order to advance their point of view.

Their goals are no more lofty or noble than those of the legislative or executive branch.

Some judges truly believe that they are above both the legislative and executive branch. This belief is a malignancy that truly endangers our freedoms.

They are not the anointed members of some infallable elite priesthood.

I would like to believe that all judges are impartial and above the political struggle to gain, exercise, and maintain power but I do not.

Having said that what recourse do the people have other than the legislative and executive branches of government to prevent a dictatorship of a politicized judiciary.

I will not say that Greer is one of these judges. But it should be noted that his bio refers to him as a consummate politician.

I also see the result of his work.

127 posted on 10/25/2003 10:33:59 PM PDT by isrul
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To: EternalVigilance
And Terri has endured total sensory deprivation, no pictures,no music....NOTHING!

Those are interrogation tactics used on POW's not frail disabled women.
128 posted on 10/25/2003 10:35:03 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: All
I think you should send some of the material on this site to Larry King:

http://www.hospicepatients.org/Hosp-FL-Suncoast-entrypage.html

He may be a big pro death liberal but he also knows that a good scandal helps keep the TV ratings up. (Kobe is a good example of this.) And if this doesn't qualify than I don't know what does.

129 posted on 10/25/2003 10:44:39 PM PDT by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: middie
Get over it and just allow her to be put to death just so you can re-inforce the separation of powers?

No - don't quite think this is worth a woman's life. There is injustice going on here. There is abuse of the law to allow murder. And you think all should sit back and get over it?

I do not intend to quietly allow the judges to reinterpret laws, to redefine the meaning of vegetative and to ignore evidence that demands investigation on many fronts that have not been investigated. How easy for a judge to do his job and brush aside the little inconveniences and questions in motive that are raised.

And, when he does so, we are to ignore it? No, the judges are not foolproof either as we are seeing as they write law from the bench. Now, they are reinterpreting law and if successful, they then use this reinterpreted law or definition of words as precedent. Apparently this judge ignored the volumes of indications that Michael was abusing the power over this woman.

Your little separation of powers will have to be able to handle the situations of abuse of those powers and the fact that these abuses will be corrected.

130 posted on 10/25/2003 11:06:18 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: Theodore R.
"Did you mean George W. Greer or Greer's friend the sheriff?"

I meant Greer. But did you know the sheriff is a member of the hospice foundation of Florida ($uncoast)?

131 posted on 10/25/2003 11:08:38 PM PDT by isrul
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To: sweetliberty
Great post - love the violin serenade.
132 posted on 10/25/2003 11:09:52 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: isrul
..."Many judges would have figured out a way to dump (the Schiavo) case," said Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice, Greer's friend for more than 20 years. "But he stuck by it. He deserves a medal for enduring that alone."


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Such a pity for Terri. Looks like this judge is getting a little bit of the God complex.
133 posted on 10/25/2003 11:12:16 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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134 posted on 10/25/2003 11:13:41 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: gg188
How can we have "equilibrium" if the courts can't be overruled?
135 posted on 10/25/2003 11:19:27 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Normally a Lurker
Oh, you mean "others" such as the "loving husband's" siblings?? Oh, yes, those are really impartial parties.
136 posted on 10/25/2003 11:22:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: isrul
Anyone have a list of our cast of characters who are, or have been, Hospice Board Members or who serve in other capacities on Hospice? And do they serve with .. or without .. pay? Would be very interesting ... this could be a whole 'nother thread.
137 posted on 10/25/2003 11:39:24 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; livius
The only connection I'm aware of is that one of Greer's fellow judges' has a sister who just recently left the Hospice as Board Chairman. Judge John C. Lenderman, and his sister is Martha Lenderman.

Did I miss something?
138 posted on 10/26/2003 12:22:32 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: Theodore R.
Greer is a member of a conservative Baptist church which recently advocated keeping Terri Schiavo alive in a church newsletter.

from the article above...
139 posted on 10/26/2003 12:47:05 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: FR_addict
Regarding Martha Lenderman from this link, the Winter 2003 Hospice Newsletter: http://www.thehospice.org/newsarc5.htm

"It has been my honor to be associated with The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast since 1996. Although I am passing the role as board chair to Sharon Miletich, I am not leaving this wonderful organization. I have learned so much during my tenure as board chair and have such respect for the other board members who have served with me. It has been especially gratifying to lead the board during the 25th anniversary year of our hospice.
by Martha Lenderman
Outgoing Chair, Board of Directors"
140 posted on 10/26/2003 12:50:48 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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