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Michael Schiavo Larry King Live
CNN Live ^ | 10-24-03 | Larry King

Posted on 10/24/2003 7:05:19 PM PDT by JustPiper

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To: floriduh voter; Registered
His attorney is such a loser and the two of them think STARVATION-DEHYDRATION is just the cat's pajamas.

One would think this is shocking enough on its face but astonishingly enough America has become deadened to it. IMHO we need some hit-hard graphics depicting just how horrific the situation is (e.g. seizures, mottled body, swollen tongue, the full ugliness in horrid detail -- what would you expect to see in someone dying of thirst and starvation?)

Normally Registered does amusing graphics but I wonder if he can do some dead-serious ones for this cause.

1,481 posted on 10/28/2003 6:19:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Wait a minute. Local freepers are freeping the heck out of Terri's fight. The local community doesn't like this either and what's worse, THEY ARE STARVING-DEHYDRATING PEOPLE TO DEATH EVERY DAY before a natural death.

Did you notice that Felos said that STARVING-DEHYDRATION is a natural death? I don't think so!!! IT'S MURDER.

1,482 posted on 10/28/2003 6:21:59 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
I did not mean to condemn the whole area. Just a contemptuous pun on the macabre hospices.
1,483 posted on 10/28/2003 6:25:25 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: floriduh voter
Especially in Terri's case -- she's not at death's door, nowhere near! This is like taking her and tossing her out in the middle of the desert.
1,484 posted on 10/28/2003 6:28:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Pegita
JODIE CANNOT MARRY A DIVORCED MAN BUT SHE CAN MARRY A MAN WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE COURT ORDERED MURDER OF HIS CURRENT WIFE. That's according to MS' side. Can you imagine. Divorce bad - murder good.
1,485 posted on 10/28/2003 6:28:36 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: JustPiper
That was only one x-ray or MRI showed on LKL. Note they didn't give the date of the MRI and who even knows if that was of Terri? These people make stuff up all the time.

There are numerous scans that show Terri could be rehabilitated - even Michael Baden Forensic Doctor did a 180 after he saw Terri's films provided to him probably by the family. Terri's own doctors say she can be rehabbed but Judge Greer threw out their testimony and they are not allowed to go anywhere near Terri.

Terri's doctor now at Hospice is Greek like Felos. Greeks are into this death and dying stuff and it is quite possible that FELOS means KILL in Greek.

I'm not berating Greeks in general but the Greeks that surround Terri are into this death stuff, harkening back to Socrates - didn't he poison himself?

1,486 posted on 10/28/2003 6:32:38 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: AnimalLover
They do trachs if someone cannot breathe through the mouth or nose. It's a more direct route to the lungs. They do that if someone is found at the bottom of a swimming pool all the time in Florida. Trachs are a common procedure, sometimes for heart patients and stroke patients.
1,487 posted on 10/28/2003 6:36:27 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: nicksaunt
A Bucks County, Pennsylvania newspaper on July 2, 1997, reported Michael's mother's death, "survived by Michael and fiancee' Jodi" Centonze. There's no mention of his WIFE Terri.

You're right. He is a bad person.

1,488 posted on 10/28/2003 6:36:49 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: JulieRNR21
Did you notice the tap dance straight to the religious right? Both MS and Felos had rehearsed NOT MENTIONING FREE REPUBLIC! Then it becomes something else altogether because people at Fr fight about religion all the time.

Michael Schiavo has an AMERICAN PROBLEM, not a religious right problem but they are outraged and helping too.

1,489 posted on 10/28/2003 6:38:44 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
Socrates was sentenced to drink deadly poison hemlock in 399 BC by the Athenian council, because he denied the state recognized gods and "corrupted their youth." Today the Hemlock Society (er, Endoflifechoices.org) and its ilk work overtime to establish new state gods of nihilism and death. Socrates would have some real choice words for those folks, no doubt.
1,490 posted on 10/28/2003 6:39:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: TaxRelief
I taped the entire LKL. Michael Schiavo also said "I like Hospice." Who likes an org whose mission changed and they play god every day.
1,491 posted on 10/28/2003 6:41:58 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
If you like hospice so much Michael, why don't you personally go there on a hunger and thirst strike. What a morbid soul! Sheesh.
1,492 posted on 10/28/2003 6:44:02 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: oreolady
IDEAS? EVERYONE WHO EMAILED LARRY KING BEFORE NEEDS TO EMAIL HIM TO HAVE ATTY PAT ANDERSON ON AS WELL AS BROTHER, DAD OR SISTER if they so desire. That's only fair. MS attempted to savage a great, American family. If they need Pat Anderson's phone number, it's in the book under Attorneys, Pinellas County, FL Area Code (727).
1,493 posted on 10/28/2003 6:44:42 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
That is an inteeresting coincidence but I wouldn't make too much of it. In fact, although Felos is of Greek ancestry, he is very definitely involved in the New Age movement and is quite far out there regarding discain for Christianity.

I admire your devotion to Terri and the many other probably thousands like her, whose names we will never know.

Here's an interesting article posted on Sunday, written by a priest of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese (and of course, the Orthodox Church has been pro-life for 2,000 years):

The Martyrdom of Terri Schiavo

Orthodoxy Today ^ | October 26, 2003 | Fr. Johannes L. Jacobse

Posted on 10/26/2003 10:47 AM EST by NYer

Martyr is a term derived from the Greek (matyria) that means witness. In Christian antiquity martyrs were those who witnessed of a faith in God even unto death. Martyrs witness to a truth that exists beyond space and time, where meaning, values, and purpose have their source and judgment, and where the touchstone between good and evil resides. Martyrs do not kill. Martyrs are killed.

Terri Schiavo, in her courageous struggle against the ministers of death, is a witness for life. The public battle over whether she should live or die is a titan struggle between those who reference that higher truth, and those whose value of human life is determined by the calculus of temporal expediency. Her mute testimony reveals that the contempt, scorn, even hatred, for human life that her adversaries possess is the soil from which great evil can arise.

“When is that Bitch Gonna Die?”

Wesley Smith, author of Forced Exit: The Slippery Slope from Assisted Suicide to Euthanasia explains the motives behind the efforts to kill Terri by her husband Michael Schiavo. After winning a malpractice suit that would fund care for Terri, Michael banked the money and cut off all rehabilitative therapies. Meanwhile, Michael moved in with another woman and had a child with another one on the way. (What does Michael’s fiancée think might happen to her if she has an accident?)

“When is that bitch gonna die?” Michael asked Carla Sauer, the nurse charged with taking care of Terri. Michael will receive the remaining portion of the malpractice settlement when Terri dies. Some of the money has been used to pay his legal expenses. Michael allows no doctor to examine Terri that he has not selected.

Terry Schiavo is not in a coma, not in a persistent vegetative state (PVS), and not dying. She has suffered brain damage that left her severely disabled but alert to her surroundings. She is not supported by oxygen, a ventilator, or other machines. She is fed food and fluids through a tube. (Christopher Reeves can’t feed himself – should we kill him too?).

Several doctors testified that Terri has the potential for significant improvement if rehabilitative therapies were allowed. Meanwhile her family has promised to care for Terri if Michael relinquishes custody, something Michael refuses to do. Michael could divorce Terri, but then control of the funds for Terri’s rehabilitation move to Terri’s parents.

It got worse. Fighting for Michael was a cadre of professional euthanasia advocates including lawyer and Dr. Peter Bambikidas (two fallen sons of the Greek Orthodox Church). Michael appointed Dr. Ronald Cranford, who publicly labels himself “Dr. Humane Death,” as a consultant in the case. So far Cranford spent only 45 minutes examining Terri. The deck was stacked against her.

Fighting Against the Killers

Terri Schiavo is in a stand-off with those who want her dead. Michael’s motive is greed and his hired guns are driven by an ideology that offers them power to decide who lives and who dies. Life is cheap is their view. People are reduced to commodities, their value determined by the benefit they give to the stronger around them.

This dark work hides in language that ostensibly values life. Pundits arguing for Terri’s death for example, react to the courage displayed by Gov. Jeb Bush and the Florida legislature by arguing that Terri’s life has become a “political football.” It’s a dishonest characterization. Her life isn’t the football. Her death is. The death advocates want to kick her into the end zone, not her defenders.

Manipulating language is the death advocate’s stock in trade. Feminists lionize abortion pioneer Margaret Sanger as a champion of women rights when in fact she favored the death of those whom feminists claim are helped by abortion. Partial birth abortion advocates defend the barbaric practice by arguing that it is necessary for the health of the mother, when in fact the procedure is more dangerous to the mother than delivering her child alive. Euthanasia advocates argue that doctor induced death is necessary to relieve pain and suffering, when in fact research has shown that most requests to die arise because of depression, and advances in pain medication makes virtually all suffering manageable.

Against this offensive Terri lies mute and helpless, but nevertheless an eloquent witness for the inherent sacredness and dignity of life. Terri does not deserve to die. She recognizes and responds to life in ways entirely appropriate to her injuries. She awakens the conscience of those who ponder her circumstances with any measure of honesty, and clarifies the motives and intent of those who seek her death.

When Men Abandon God, They Will Believe Anything

Fyodor Dostoevsky, writing against the materialist captivity overtaking the thinking of the Russian intelligentsia in pre-revolutionary Russia, remarked that the abandonment of faith in God would render man susceptible to all forms of ideology, most of it dangerous and destructive. Solzhenitsyn sounded the same warning in “A World Split Apart” when he said that the abandonment of any reference to God in the Judeo/Christian West would favor man as the touchstone of all truth and value. This development (actually a spiritual regression) would open the door to barbarism.

The advocates fighting for Terri’s death are the apostles of this new barbarism. Abandoning all reference to a touchstone higher than themselves, they value Terri’s life solely in terms of cost-benefit analysis. Michael Schiavo wants “that bitch to die” because of the financial payoff. His cadre of hired guns wants Terri dead because it helps them rid the world of sickness and other human maladies by eliminating those who suffer from them.

Meanwhile, Terri Schiavo lies on her sickbed, recovering from four days of forced starvation. The battle for her life is not over. Death advocates are tenacious. They believe in their cause with a cool and deliberate fanaticism. The fight to keep Terri alive is one battle in the titan struggle to determine whether we bequeath future generations a culture of life or a culture of death.

Copyright © 2003. Rev. Johannes L. Jacobse. Reprinting allowed. Please click copyright notice for details.

Rev. Johannes L. Jacobse is a priest in the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America.

1,494 posted on 10/28/2003 6:48:19 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: TheOtherOne
The AP has been pro-death all the way, under-reporting the numbers who attended the Vigil 24/7. Just wait until they end up in a Hospice death bed and notice that the door is shut, cops are guarding the door, the minister stops calling and they are having pain in their kidneys and getting weaker. The family can't come any more because they're suffering seeing them suffer.

Fellas, a wife or parent can starve you too, AP.

1,495 posted on 10/28/2003 6:49:09 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The new baby was born last week. A baby girl named Jezebel.
1,496 posted on 10/28/2003 6:51:52 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: kcvl
Saw your post re: all the ghouls in Pinellas County.

Just recall that Judge Lenderman upon the express request by Mayor Baker and St. Pete City Council, PREVENTED A SUICIDE ON STAGE by the band Hell on Earth. Apparently, you can starve and dehydrate a woman to death. But, no assisted suicide on stage because that's now illegal.

SO, in essence Terri would be safer if she went on tour with Hell on Earth than by being a Hospice client.

1,497 posted on 10/28/2003 6:56:04 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: Republic; MeeknMing; windchime; cyn; dandelion; TaxRelief
Did you hear about someone buying MS's name for a web site where he trashes him? I think it's michaelschiavo.com. The dracula picture came from there.
1,498 posted on 10/28/2003 6:57:30 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: pc93
PC93, you know who does all kinds of experimental stuff with odd machines? The scientologists. I don't think if he went out there to visit one of their enlightenment centers that would constitute medical treatment. NEITHER IS FOOD. Since when did FOOD AND WATER constitute medical treatment? That is what is wrong with State Laws re: Exit Protocols. FOOD IS NOT MEDICAL TREATMENT!

Nice to see your name.

1,499 posted on 10/28/2003 6:59:49 AM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse; ...
Transcript of Interview with MS:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/27/lkl.00.html
1,500 posted on 10/28/2003 6:59:54 AM PST by wisconsinconservative
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