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To: pepsionice
...if you were told you were going to be in a vegetable state starting tomorrow...for at least 10 years...would you really like to 'live' in that state? My bet is that 90 percent of the population would say no.

Terri is not in a "vegetable" state. She is conscious - she is aware of things and people around here. There is an internal life that humans have - their thoughts, feelings, and spirit. How can you assume that she is a vegetable? A carrot? Cauliflower?

A vegetable state simply is not an electable choice for most of us.

Again, this use of the word "vegetable" is just so much prop-speak. She is disabled, and many people are disabled. Obviously no one would choose to become disabled. Are you saying that just because people would not choose to become disabled, that once someone, by accident or someone else's design, becomes disabled, they should be killed?

And the icing on the cake...is the continued day after day bills going to someone...either to the insurance company, the state, the family, etc. Just add up 20 more years of maintaining her in a vegetable state.

Again, you cling to this "vegetable" idea. First of all, she is not in a coma, which you know. And EVEN people in comas can often hear. I have a dear friend who I have written about on FR who was in a coma on total life support for weeks, who was not supposed to live. He is now alive and a changed man. Second of all, the money thing is in this case, not the issue. If you have read ANYTHING AT ALL about this situation you know that her so-called husband spent hundreds of thousands of dollars that were meant for her care, all on efforts to kill her. And her parents want to care for her on their own dime.

We all want to live real lives...productive lives...and none of us care for permanent situation like this.

Speak for yourself. You can kill yourself without any outside help (guns, rat poison, cliffs, starving yourself, etc) when you think you aren't productive enough. You have no right to judge when others aren't productive enough and thereby forefit their right to live. Your argument is the exact same argument used by Hitler and his minions. Exact, word for word. Non-productive, therefore non-persons.

Right at this minute, there are cloistered nuns, from the materialistic viewpoint, non-productive people, all they do is pray for the welfare of all people. Right now there are saints of many religions, praying and meditating for the welfare of all. In your viewpoint, they are non-productive.

1,244 posted on 10/22/2003 10:21:52 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
YOU GO, Pram!!
1,247 posted on 10/22/2003 10:23:58 AM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (ad majorem dei gloriam!)
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To: pram
Don't argue with these people over and over. They never check it out, they never actually let anything happen that will change their minds, and they love punching our buttons. They just won't see that this isn't a right-to-die-of-terminal-vegetable. The ways that this case is so different from that scenario are not interesting to them.
1,249 posted on 10/22/2003 10:26:51 AM PDT by ChemistCat (Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
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